Jamiso, thank you for admitting the statistic you offered regarding the number of engineers (supporting Truthers), where out of thin air. Your credibility with me and many on this site just sank to zero.

The Earth is Sphere Publicola, how goes it with that planted weed? Is the earth sphere or not? Get back to me on that you scientist you!

He says:..Is your mind so "open" on other subjects too, like, say, the earth being a sphere? Because the way you are talking here, one would be "closed minded" not leave open the possibility that there's some other "realistic scenario" with respect to the shape of our planet out there that no one's thought of yet.

Hey Republica, buddy, the earth is not a sphere:

"The true shape of the Earth called an Oblate Spheroid. The term "Oblate" refers to it's slightly oblong appearance. The term "Spheroid" means that it is almost a sphere, but not quite. One of the most important things to remember about the Earth's shape is that it is only very slightly oblate. The diameter from the North Pole to the South Pole (the shortest diameter) is approximately 12,714 km. The equatorial diameter (the longest diameter) is approximately 12,756 km. This is not a big difference, but it does make the Earth not quite a sphere."

I am anxiously awaiting your rebuttal genius!

All I stated in my initial post on this subject was: for those who believe that fire caused the collapse of the towers to go and educate themselves in this regard, and if they know a physicist, fire Marshall, structural engineer or an architectural engineer to ask for their professional takes on the subject.

Reading the variation of believes from the 100 or so postings regarding this tread since then are astonishing to say the least. Someone quoted Newton's second law where it only applies to linear velocity and totally missed the first law that might have aided his argument.

I read Publicola's tired old Zionistic approach of mockery, defame, and ad harmonium attacks where other’s points of view he could not refute. One even quoted the NIST (total hacks that abet government and CIA in cover up of every "unexplained" disaster) to stress a point!

There are those who quote some farfetched ideas from some kukoo "Truthers" (CIA implants to discredit and distract the truth seekers) and try to deem the entire movement whacko. Some resort to common sense, and yes, there are some who are willing to explain away the laws of physics that have anchored us to this rock for oh about 5 billion years, to proof their point.

Then there are those who come up with some off the shelf statistics that renders one's minds senseless (0.000654321102 % of engineers don’t believe the truthers...)

Privately every engineer I have worked with in the past 8 years laughs at the official report, however, since every scientist, scholars or engineer who dismissed the government’s official report has either been rebuked and/or abdicated from his/her post, very few academia or engineers have gone on record to state their true opinion.

Then again, “wise men talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something”

I strongly suggest you both educate yourselves regarding fire properties of jet fuel, engine combustion, and fire proofing. Learn about the Restrained and Unrestrained Assemblies in steel buildings, and while you at it check out the purpose of radiator Mike! It is not what you think.

I leave the argument and interpretation of Constitutional laws to you gents and expect that you show enough courtesy to let a structural engineer state few facts.

I do not deal with conspiracy theories, only what my educational background and experience tells me.

It is disheartening, to say the least, that 3000 people perished on that day (and consequently 100,000's more throughout the Muslim world)and the enlightened ones do not bother to ask for a full report.

I have been in construction and demolition business for almost 40 years and have never seen nor heard of a high rise building, not only in this country (boasting the state of art UBC and NFPA codes)but throughout the world (third world countries constructed high rises included) fall under the stress of fire. Now if you or GG choose to stay ambivalent to this topic that is your prerogative, but no need to belittle those who questions the Bush regime's Report on 911.

Here is a bit of trivia for you, Ever noticed your iron/steel motorbike/ car engine falling apart or collapsing due to fuel combustion?

I did not think so!

in office and also be critical of him for being given the NPP only after nine months as president?

Be careful what you say folks, in my opinion, NP is another concocted tool of elite and money gods to be utilized to shape policies and alter current affaires. Case and point, the Iranian NPP winner Shirin Ebadi (a total hack and fraud) she was chosen to stir up some riots in her native country to pave road for US invasion, which did not quite pan out since the natives had not heard of her prior to the NPP!

The more insidious side of this NPP to Obama is to discredit any progressive who is critical of the CHOSEN puppet in chief for lack of his accomplishments and also blunt any future criticism down the road for his escalation of global war ...

Think about it before you decide to skewer me!