Have you read your history? Trotsky broke from the communists and got an axe in his head in return?

I think one loses credibility when one plays the communist/Nazi card (again history: the two were mortal enemies). If anything American Conservatism can be more closely tied to Nazi philosophy and Communist practice. The wiretaps in the name of security (what's next? Turning your parents in for a pair of blue jeans?).

Darwinism: liberals don't care if you teach your kids creationism. Just not in science class. Creationism is not science; it's faith. Darwinism is science.

Prayer in school? .... Is not forbidden. Children of faith can pray anytime they like. What is not allowed is to force everyone to participate in your prayers. The separation of church and state was designed to protect church, not the other way around. Of course, lately it has been used to protect those of us who like to form our opinions from the religious who demand that we believe as they do.

Abortion? Too complicated to discuss in a few lines. But why should the majority have to bow to the views of the minority when the lives of that minority is not affected? Nobody is forcing you to get an abotion if you don't want one.

For the most part conservatism in this country is practced as a way for the minority to impose their will on the majority. That is more communist thanAmerican.

The notion that the press as a whole is motivated in some way by liberalism is a republican talking point. There are certainly parts of the press that spin right ((Fox News) and those that spin left (Salon), but as a whole a member of the press is motivated by the desire to get a story.

So I reiterate: nothing in Obama's conversation with JDP exposed him to press scrutiny. A million people asked Obama a question during the campaign. It was John McCain's decision to make JDP a poster boy that exposed him to the scrutiny. It was McCain's responsibility to vet his story, but McCain was too anxious to make a politcal point during the debates t worry too much about the truth. Nonetheless it was he, a conservative, that put JDP on the sacrificial platter. If it turned out that Bethea was similarly untruthful, then Obama would share responsiblity for exposing her to the ravages of the press.

First, let us remind that it was not Obama that brought forth the critisism of JTP. Obama answered his question thoughtfully, and moved on. It was the McCain campaign that brought JDP to everyones attention in an attempt to mount a bogus attack on some imagined socialist agenda. McCain set JDP up as some sort of ideal, and the press investigated the veracity of the claims that McCain made about JDP, most of them turned out to be untrue.

So what you are saying is that unless the press decided to hide McCain's deceptions about JDP, they are guilty of attacking him?

If I publicly put myself forward as some sort of expert on something, I expect my credentials to be examined. My credibility depends on it. I also expect that if I say something untrue, that I'm going to get called on it. That would not be an "attack", it would have been me being made to take personal responsibility for my statements.

JDP was not a licensed plummer, who was taking work away from real plummers. He claimed Obama was going to tax a business he didn't actually own. His question to Obama contained a false pretense (AKA: a lie). Obama's policies would, in fact, give him a tax cut, which if anything would have made it more possible to buy that business.

Republican's proposed tax cuts would not have applied to him. He was USED by the Repubican party to support a lie. Which makes the Rebunlican self-riteousness on this issue all the more galling. They used JDP and then have the gall to complain when someone has the guts to point out the lie.

Has Bethea lied? Is she not really a student? Is her a a school actually in good shape? If she lied, then have at her. Joe the Plummer did, and he got called on it. If the same situation applied here, I'm sure you'd be going at her.

I suppose if it turned out that Bethea was not really a student, who was falsely acusing Obama of taking money from public schools, and asking why it was that Obama wanted to tax a hypothetical business she didn't actually own, but which the tax cut Obama wanted to give her would provide her with more funds to buy that business....

In other words, if she was not a child, and turned out to be a lying moron, then I suppose she would be fair game.

BTW in case you hadn't noticed, meeting Obama turned out to bevthe best thing that ever happened to "Joe".

This just in...

An apocraphyl source has revealed that shortly before appearing with with First Lady Michelle Obama in the House chamber last night, the so-called "Ms. Bethea" lanced a small pimple on her chin in a Capitol public restroom. The effluent from said pimple contained traces of her human DNA, which she callously, if not criminally, left to perish on a paper towel in the restroom trash bin.

Shortly before this incident, Ms. Bethea was heard making a sniffing noise from inside a stall, then muttering "not so bad", illustrating, not at all surprisingly, that she thinks that her elitist shit doesn't stink.

After Obama's speech, Ms. Bethea, was observed attempting to buy a 2 ounce bag of Doritos from a Capitol vending machine. Short of change, she shockingly accepted a nickel from a passing congressional page, in order to complete her purchase.

Given these incidents, one can only wonder what is next for this proto-fetus murdering, elitist welfare queen. Octuplets?