First, I don't believe Bush is even mentioned.

Second, Obama certainly doesn't mention his "mistake" does he? He just insists this is the way it works in Washington and how he is going to change that. But he worked that way when it seemed to serve him, didn't he? It's a bit disingenuous of him to somehow imply that he's so much better than all of that and everyone else, when he voted for exactly the same thing as either Clinton or McCain propose.

Obama's obviously NOT above pandering and pretense when he feels it will serve him.

No big deal. Iran, whose party line is that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth. What's so threatening about that? And who cares about Israel anyway? Let Iran get some nukes and bomb the hell out them and create havoc. Yeah, that's the plan! That sure to bring peace to Middle East. Just let them bomb the hell out of Israel. So long Israel!! See ya! Iran said they had no plans of bombing anyone but, wow, they just couldn't help themselves with that needing to wipe Israel off the map thing. But no matter.

And of course, Clinton didn't say ANYTHING about bombing Iran if they bombed Israel. Nobody heard her say that, did they?

Damn her, she's just such a warmonger! Willing to bomb Iran for no reason whatsoever.

Obama would just slap their hands and say "Bad Iran! Look at the mess you made!" Of course, that's if Iran and the rest of the Middle East and the rest of the world survived.

October 19, 2006: Called Israel the “greatest insult to human dignity.” Said Israel must be removed from the Middle East and called the Holocaust a “fairy tale.”

August 3, 2006: Said the solution to Middle East crisis is the destruction of Israel.

October 26, 2005, speaking at the “World Without Zionism” conference in Tehran: “As the Imam [Ayatollah Khomeini] said, Israel must be wiped off the map.” And: “The Islamic [community] will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland . . . .

December 12, 2006: 2nd day of Iran’s infamous Holocaust (denial) conference in Tehran. Said that Israel “will be wiped out soon.”

January 23, 2007: During meeting with Syria’s foreign minister. U.S. and Israel “will soon come to the end of their lives.”

And Iran is whining...uh, complaining? Clinton's comments are nothing compared to theirs.

But gosh, I suppose those are all a big nothings. Just silly little sayings on Iran's part.

Maybe it's time someone said something loud and clear to them...in language they understand.

What about the innocents in Israel? Or don't they count?

I think is you that dodges THAT question. What about THAT double-standard?

And get a grip. I'm sure that how ever what Iran/Ahmadinejad said that if it could have been translated differently, that would have been readily made clear by now. And since it has been repeated over and over again by them multiple times, I think the translation is quite apparent.

But truth of the matter is that you want to so extremely rationalize and PRETEND that Iran has no ambition in that area and PRETEND what they say is something altogether different, not because it's true, but just to demonize and attack Clinton for saying anything. Let's be clear about your motives. If she had said something opposite, you'd be arguing the opposite.

"Are not Muslim people too?" Don't give me that line. What patronizing bullshit bait. But you'll make that argument won't you? That anyone who defends what Clinton said is really racist and doesn't feel that muslims are human beings, too. More bullshit to support your rationalizations.

I think you need to answer the question does Israel, and the innocents there, have a right to survive no more or less than Iran?

You lose III.

Ah, diplomacy. Something you're an expert on...obviously.

As far as innocents "in Israel", no, you didn't say a word.

And I already answered you on the innocent Muslim question. You can take that twisted bullshit bait game you're playing and stick it.

Wow, I think you just "baited" your own self. Couldn't stand not calling me a racist, could you? Maybe it's time to take your blood pressure, it sounds like it could be kind of high.

I think you just answered your own "sophist" question. Rube? Go look it up. Don't even think you can ever play that game with me.

Wow, even though I'm a Clinton supporter, I actually liked Obama and up until now, with the exceptions of the stupidity of his supporters, always thought he could actually be elected.

Upon looking at savagepolitics site (which I've read some things there before), I'm now absolutely convinced the man is a liar. Period.

That LIST WITH REFERENCES goes on and on and on. Clinton may have exaggerated her Bosnia thing but she didn't lie about being there. Absolutely NOTHING compared to the lies that Obama has told. I'm shocked, actually.

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=317

If Obama wins the nomination, the general election is toast. We're fucked. That man is unelectable.

The disservice of the MSM in protecting Obama and following through with real answers is inexcusable.

Ah, here is all the Obamaborg once again stating how Joan "has a right to her own opinions" out of one side of their mouths all the way screaming for her to "assimilate" to the Obama propaganda theology, castigating her for daring to repeat anything about Wright, and talking about writing Salon's owners and complaining that she is a lousy journalist because she dares to have freaking guts not to not spout Obama propaganda 24/7 like all of the other Obamaborg news sites.

All the while Huffingtonpost, has Rev. Wright's video on page one, front line and center for the past week, and no one complains about that!

What arrogant and nasty hypocrites you all are.