They use twisted logic, shoddy analysis, and junk science to support a fundamentally flawed idea, and when the Obama people get pissed off about it, they say "what's the matter? Can't take the 'tough' questions? Why do you get so mad when someone questions you?"

"twisted logic, shoddy analysis, and junk science"?

Sorry, but neither opinion or criticism are facts nor the insults and name calling suffered here by Clinton supporters at the behest of Obama supporters constitute logic, analysis and science supporting and fundamentally great ideas.

Now that is "twisted logic, shoddy analysis, and junk science."

So Joan isn't entitled to an opinion of her own? She MUST support Obama singularly or else? She simply cannot be where she says she is and be admiring of both? She can't say what she thinks and feels about sexism? She's supposed to put a lid on that to satisfy you and other Obama supporters?

Where does it say on Salon "Obama" news and analysis only?

And "overt" support for Hillary? Overt? Oh, come on! Any article here is fucking trashed if it shows even a slight objectivity about this campaign. And 'hatchet' jobs on Obama? Really? Hatchet jobs? I think it is you that protest too much.

And you have the "audacity" to say that Joan has a "right" to support Clinton? Considering you make it very plain in the first part of your spiel that she DOES NOT have that right because all the Obama supporters are so dissatisfied and you then say out of the other side of your mouth that she does. What is that about?

I'll tell you what that's about! That's bullshit and you know it! Your whole post is really diatribe against any fairness whatsoever.

WHY DON'T YOU BE HONEST! WHY DON'T YOU ADMIT WHAT IT IS YOU REALLY WANT! You want Salon to be for Obama only and to hell with any other view. And oh my god, that an editor here DARE, FUCKING DARE TO BE OTHERWISE?

And you can go on about impartiality and fairness? Doesn't that beat all! Impartial? Fair? Right! Somehow I think being impartial would mean being able to criticize BOTH OBAMA AND CLINTON. You wouldn't know impartial or fair if it hit you in the ass!

Impartial? Fair? Can you say hypocrite?

I'm not upset in general about any of this. I'm pointing AncientAssyrian's hypocrisy. Because he says one thing and then SAYS he says another, which he plainly does not. All the while accusing Joan of the very thing he does.

With all due respect, Joan's job is to "stir the pot". And I agree with a previous poster's observation that this is often done to create a "pissing contest" and I'll be the first to admit to joining in the pissing.

Sorry, Joan's entitled to her opinion however it is no more or less than anyone here and I don't see the necessity of her having to defend every point that she makes (and I don't agree with half that she says). But I don't see that as her job. And I don't hear that she has distanced herself from the sexism vs. racism debate and I think that's obvious by this article.

And I also don't think that Obama supporters have to have their support of him spoon fed back to them...and I think that's EXACTLY what they are insisting on. And I agree that both sides haven't been presented fairly...but I doubt seriously that you want to hear my version of that!

Calling Joan out? This isn't calling Joan out. What I get is that most Obama supporters here want to bait (not debate) but BAIT AND INSULT Joan and Clinton supporters. Discussion? There's little real discussion here. Just people spouting off diatribe after diatribe.

No you don't. You don't REALLY want it to be fair. Or you wouldn't begin to join in the baiting and INTIMIDATION of asking Joan to endorse Clinton. But you just rationalize that away pretending it has something to do with "fair" and "impartial".

Every website that dares to publish anything remotely fair to Clinton or anywhere near negative about Obama has comments from Obama supporters who go on and on about how the writer should just come out and say they endorse Clinton. It's just baiting and intimidation and you know it.

Joan has EVERY right to be where she is. And she shouldn't feel compelled to do anything to satisfy the pressure of either Obama or Clinton supporters. But Obama supporters can't stand that!

Get real. There hasn't been any article on this site that has come even close to being actually, ACTUALLY, supportive of Clinton. God forbid that should happen. But Obama supporters want to make sure that Salon KNOWS it's place in feeding them what they want to hear. So they insult and call Clinton supporters names including ANY writer who dares write anything that is vaguely positive (or even mildly negative) of Clinton.

Intelligent and rational? Look back through these letters. I have been called so many names by Obama supporters, it's ridiculous. Not once did I call them anything. And all for stating my opinion. And then you tell me that I'm NOT being intelligent and rational. Give me a break!

How funny since I will be watching Bill Moyers (the only sane journalist left) right about now. But of course, it didn't occur to you about time differences across the country did it? You just sort of assume crap. Talk about prejudice.

Yes, let's listen to ALL SIDES. Just as long as ALL SIDES DO GET HEARD including those about Clinton. But you couldn't stand THAT could you?

Sorry, just because you're an Obama supporter doesn't mean you some entitlement to truth.