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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 06:29 PM

Here's the "Truth"!!

From a factcheck article on yahoo news:

"As a state legislator voting for a tax break, Obama even joked that he wanted signs on gas pumps telling motorists that he was responsible for lowering prices....

THE FACTS:

In 2000, gasoline prices were climbing quickly, reaching $2 a gallon in the Chicago area — a remarkable price back then. Illinois legislators scrambled to offer some election-year relief to angry motorists.

Obama voted three times for a tax holiday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_el_pr/obama_gas_tax_fact_check

Funny how Obama didn't think it was a "gimmick" when it could serve him in the Illinois senate. This is just disingenuous tripe. He sure was willing to "posture" back then. Three times worth.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:54 AM
Original article: Obama "outraged" by Wright

@AKA Smith

As I have commented before, I think the constant comparison brought by Obama supporters, Nadarbots, etc. is a anti-Clinton playbook tactic than means less than zero. Somehow it's supposed to characterize how BAD Clinton's presidency as a whole somehow was. And how Hillary "should" have left him, etc. if she was somehow the decent woman she purports to be - more anti-Clinton standard playbook blah, blah used to demonize her.

But what I find funny in this tactic's use at this point if one is going to have an argument about a candidate having a decided sense of strong judgment ability is that Obama's blindness to Wright's real character or choosing to think that people would just over look Wright and the implications, actually suggests a lack of needed judgment on his part.

Pot meet Kettle.

The problem is it does suggest everything that Clinton has said about how she is vetted and Obama is not. All of a sudden people are realizing what an unknown quantity Obama really is and that's a problem. Is he actually what he says he is and actually believes what he says he believes? Wright magnifies the degree and quality of that "unknown" ten times over.

The Wright debacle is not simply guilt by association, which carries some but minimal weight but guilt by deep association as in someone who "inspired" the title and meaning of the book Obama wrote about his life. That, unfortunately for Obama, carries huge weight!

Sorry, gotta go here.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:55 AM
Original article: Obama "outraged" by Wright

@susan sunflower

But is it because Bill Clinton's the first to "poach" the intern (I do think the intern wanted to be poached) or is it because he's the first to get caught? JFK was notorious in his affairs compared to Clinton and we only know that long after the fact because it was kept hidden. I cannot believe that all the other presidents were all that faithful, democrat or republican. I would be dollars to donuts that at least one of them "poached" as much as Bill, they just had the luck to not get caught.

And the Republicans had it in for Bill Clinton in a major way and knew his weakness. And it was a sign of the times (the 90s) that something that would normally be kept hidden about a president (oh my!) that could be used to destroy him would suddenly come out in the light.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:22 AM
Original article: Obama "outraged" by Wright

@weeping for brunnhilde

"He wouldn't have been my pastor."

"You can't choose your family, but you can choose your church/pastor [forget which]."

"Farakkhan, Farakkhan, Farakkhan."

WOW! That's a lot! That's HUGE!

And stating the obvious logic that Obama should have paid attention to is "fanning the flames"? Wow, that's really damnable! Really awful of Clinton!

Perhaps if Obama had "kept up" with some of that, none of this would a problem.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:08 AM
Original article: Obama "outraged" by Wright

@haut

Exactly HOW is Hillary "fanning" the flames?

What EXACTLY is she doing or saying or has said or done in all of this except to say what Obama should have known a long time ago, that she would never had stayed with a pastor who said those things?

Oh, but of course, this is all Clinton's fault. Blame Hillary for Wright. Sorry, bub, no one forced Wright's hand. And no one forced Obama to listen to him, be friends with him, be married by him, and receive spiritual guidance from him for 20 FREAKING YEARS! While I don't dislike Obama and I feel sorry for him because of this mess, he is disingenuous at best to suggest that he never knew all of this about Wright.

Just WHOSE presidency are you comparing Bill Clinton's too? Bush I, Bush II, Raygun, Nixon, etc.? Bill Clinton's presidency, regardless of Lewinsky, was the best damn presidency either side of FDR. We were solvent, not at war and regardless of NAFTA (which is a necessary evil for our globalized economy but has serious flaws needs recalibration and rewriting) and pretty damn happy as a nation compared to now. You so-called analysis is complete bullshit and just standard underhanded tar and feathering from Obamabot's bible of arguments. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Just more blah pretending to actually mean something.

And Rev. Wright is exactly as Joan said. He is a classic narcissist who cannot stand NOT being in the limelight and cannot stand the fact that Obama had to distance himself from him and disown what Wright preached. He is a classic narcissist in that he NEEDS to prove himself right at all costs, regardless of whether it helps Obama or hurts him.

Unfortunately, for Obama, Wright's a chicken that has definitely come home to roost.

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