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Saturday, March 1, 2008 08:39 PM
Original article: Hillary at twilight

@doc5467

I read through chhabili posts and did not see what you saw - a staunch Hillary supporter who somehow mysteriously converted to Obama. No, if you read through her letters they are pretty equal opportunity - unflattering things to say about Obama and unflattering things to say about Clinton. And she comes across as your basic undecided voter - one day its Clinton, one day its Obama, one day its Edwards. This isn't even a conversion story, it is the story of an undecided voter picking a candidate, simple as that. But it seems she has now made up her mind and is committed to Obama. It seems her journey started with the article she cites in her 1/30 post. Her 2/28 provides a lot of detail about why she now supports Obama. It is not rocket science to read her letters and see how she got from point A to point B. I just don't know what your agenda is - you seem obsessed with chhabili's story.

As for the gratuitous advice you mention from my first post, here it is folks: "Gratuitous advice alert (which, unfortunately, applies only to those who have access to quality child care, see, above): when I meet mother's with young kids or women who are contemplating motherhood I tell them to find good quality child care and continue to work full-time while the kids are young. So, you've paid your dues and when the time comes when (I believe) your kids really need you around (from middle school on) hopefully, you'll have the clout to negotiate a more flexible work schedule because those years you put in have made you a valued employee.Before you respond to a post read it carefully and analytically - make sure you understand the other's POV. If you do not fully understand all or some points, maybe in your post you can ask for clarification."

Or maybe this is what you were thinking of:

Before you respond to a post read it carefully and analytically - make sure you understand the other's POV. If you do not fully understand all or some points, maybe in your post you can ask for clarification.

Sunday, March 2, 2008 12:56 PM
Original article: Hillary at twilight

doc5467

The reason I pasted my "gratuitous advice" post is so that you could re-read it and realize that it has nothing to do with the the subject of this thread whatsoever. It was in a response to an article about the "right age" at which for a woman to have a child and the impact of the decision - whatever age has on her life. I was simply relaying something that I've though about for a while and something that I've talked to younger mothers about. But I'd love to see how you can link this post to the Obama/Clinton campaign and chhabili's conversion.

Can we agree to differ? When I read chhabili's posts I something different - you maintain that chhabili's reasons for switching are based solely on anti-Clintonism rather than embrace of Obama and all that he stands for. Yes, the anti-Clintonism is there but I read a lot of stuff in her posts that talked about reasons to support Obama (other than anyone but Hill). Why are you so obsessed about chhabili's conversion, anyway? Do you believe that this is some nefarious plot of the Obama campaign? An Obama right from the start person is tasked with pretending to be undecided - sort of likes Hillary, seems to be v. against Obama, throws in a bit about Edwards and then reads an article that sets her to thinking about Hillary, she starts to think about all the negatives, takes a closer look at Obama and then, lo and behold, she is gung ho for Obama. I'm not into conspiracy theories but maybe you are. So, please, why don't you just come out and say that's where you're coming from!!

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