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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:45 AM

@ anon 11:39

men are far MORE conscious of the reality of compulsory parenthood than women are, for 35 years ONLY men have been subjected to it. It is true that resentment of this fact inclines some men to the "pro life" position, but I seriously doubt that this whining will win anyone over. In fact it might make some women on the fence more pro choice.

So, wait? Men are "subjected" to "compulsory" parenthood... how? The men had unprotected sex with women against their wishes? And they had no idea that this might lead to pregnancy, which in turn might lead to babies popping out?

Someone needs to go back to middle school and watch the chicken video again. Where do babies come from, mommy?

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:58 AM

I can see it now

Obama votes "present" and then criticizes Edwards and/or Clinton for voting either way. Then Obama hides behind a life-sized cardboard cutout of MLK when Clinton and Edwards raise their eyebrows at him.

I love this game, don't you?

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 01:47 PM

re anon

Childbirth for men is NEVER compulsory. No one forced them to have unprotected sex at gunpoint. The number of men who are raped by women is statistically insignificant. If a man chooses not to have a baby, he has sex with a condom or not at all, or engages in non-vaginal sex. CLEAR NOW? A woman can choose to abort a child, it's true. Likewise, a man can choose not to impregnate a woman.

As to Brightstar, you are right that the financial obligations of children fall on both parents, and therefore both parents are equally responsible. However, the actual physical hardships of childbirth have always and will always fall squarely on the shoulders of the mother, therefore the physical responsibilities and rights pertaining thereto still remain with the mother. It's really not that complicated.

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 01:55 PM

no

Women do not always have the choice before conception. Many women are impregnated by being raped. Furthermore, it seems insignificant to me whether your choice is before or after sex. In both cases, you have a choice. Men have a choice not to get a woman pregnant. Women have a choice not to become pregnant, or, if they are pregnant, to end that pregnancy.

Only in the case of rape, denied access to contraceptives, or denied access to proper medical facilities (for abortion) is anyone actually subjected to "compulsory" pregnancy. And men are almost never the victims of those conditions.

Your point that pregnancy is therefore somehow compulsive for men, as if they have no control over whether or not they get a woman pregnant, still rings false.

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 07:05 PM

woot

I played it as Clinton and won with 14950 points.

Yay! I love videogames.

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 07:15 PM

durrrr

Seriously. What?

Can I at least get paid minimum wage in compensation for the 8 minutes I just wasted? I believe it comes to about $.82, payable in check or cash.

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:54 AM
Original article: Is Obama getting "testy"?

how nice of you

Oh Tim, how utterly charitable to cast your doubts over the media's characterization of Obama's meltdown from his happy-go-lucky message of hope, when you have never given Clinton or Edwards the same benefit of doubt. Hell, you wouldn't even link to the full content and context of the Clintons' words about LBJ and fairy tales, let alone encourage your readers to watch/listen for themselves.

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