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ideahr and eeave1 - disinformation alert
[Read the article: Bully for Nancy Pelosi!]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]You should both know that ideahr is spreading untrue information. I don't know ideahr's motives, they may be innocent - but untrue information really gets my goat.
Just so you know, ideahr:
-> This thing you said is not true:
There was his choice of music played at some of his events: "I have 99 problems but the bitch isn't one of them" by JZ.
First, this false rumor was only derived from ONE event, in Iowa.
Second, from an actual reporter:
...I can't find any evidence that it happened...According both to the Obama campaign and my sources out there, Obama only attended one "victory party" in Des Moines that night -- at which he entered [link fixed] to a U2 song.
Source:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Obamas_soundtrack.html
-> This thing you said is ridiculous:
There was his pattern of smirking while his audiences booed her, allowing them to go on.
Come on! I mean, does this mean Hillary was being racist if she smiled when she made some point against Obama?
Really.
-> This thing you said is not true AND ridiculous:
There was his face-finger (bird flip) when he mentioned her name during a few appearances.
First, again, this rumor comes from only ONE event. So, this statement is literally untrue right there.
Second, if you watch the video from this ONE event, it's freaking obvious he's just scratching his face.
So, third, here's the presumptions you're piling on top of each other:
Obama scratches his face on stage at his own event that isn't live broadcast -> Obama's giving Hillary the finger at ALL his events -> Obama's deliberately pursuing a sexist campaign in the media against Hillary.
See how that's a stretch?
Source:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=10162
-> This thing you said is not true AND ridiculous:
There were the "bros before hos" t=shirts sold at his events.
1. Selling these shirts at his events, let alone condoned by the Obama campaign - are you kidding? Sexism aside, wouldn't that be the stupidest thing for the Obama campaign to do EVER?
2. There were freakin' Obama monkey dolls being sold on the internet. Did Hillary speak out against that, in any way shape or form?
If she did, I can't find a record of it. So, how's that double standard doing for ya?
-> This thing you said is mind-readingly presumptive:
And of course, his apparent tolerance of Randi Rhodes "bitch" diatribe at one of his fundraisers.
By those rules, Hillary is racist because she was "apparently tolerant" of Rush Limbaugh's racism to Obama. After all, when Rush said Obama reminded him of Curious George, Hillary not only didn't publicly denounce Rush - she continued to receive Rush's active help recruiting GOP voters to cross lines and vote for her.
Does that shoe fit Hillary? No. So, don't try and put it on Obama either.
And this thing you said is groundless:
I think his attitude gave "permission" to his followers to be rude, hostile, sexist, misogynist to Hillary and to her supporters that many women have been complaining about.
What attitude is that?
I doubt if a speech about gender would help him at this point. Nobody would believe he really means it.
How wonderfully damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't. I'd like to quote Joan Walsh about Obama giving this kind of speech:
"Please God, no. I don't think Obama standing in front of flags in, say, Seneca Falls and talking about the history of sexism is going to soothe angry Clinton supporters....Mainly I think he has to reach out to women the old-fashioned way: individually, warmly and respectfully."
This is exactly what Obama's been doing.
Source:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/06/05/obama/
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@AKA Smith - ok then.
[Read the article: Bully for Nancy Pelosi!]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I certainly agree that sexism permeates our culture. Racism and xenophobia also permeate our culture, and I think we can agree that none of these are good for our people, our country or the world.
Obama supporters (some) just jumped on the bandwagon and seized Republican talking points to use against Clinton. This was not only sexism quite often but pretty cynical for a group that claimed to be so all-fired idealistic.
The same exact complaints can be made about Hillary supporters, and their use of Republican talking points against Obama.
Now, please don't get me wrong - Hillary supporters' use of racist and xenophobic memes don't excuse Obama supporters' use of sexist memes, and vice versa. I just think to focus in on the unfair treatment of Hillary while *excluding* the unfair treatment towards Obama, is to make it look like Hillary was the only candidate sinned against.
When as far as I can see, both campaigns were sinned against and both campaigns were sinners.
There are no angels here - not Hillary, not Obama, and *definitely* not McCain and the GOP.
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It is time, exactly! Don't vote for Obama because he's black - vote for him because he's better than McCain.
[Read the article: Bully for Nancy Pelosi!]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I was not expecting racism and sexism to be key players in this election giving the fact of the country's present situation such as the poor ecomomy, the war, Terrorist threat etc,...
But of course it would be. Simply because we as a nation have sexism, racism, xenophobia, and a host of other issues...which can all be easier to wallow in, rather than rise above.
...Obama,and his supporters cares more of making history of having the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT, with false promise of a CHANGE with no experience as resume.
No. You're wrong. I am an Obama supporter, but I would gladly have voted for either Obama or Hillary, in the general election against McCain. I would have voted for Edwards, also - he was actually my first choice.act
No, what I care about is not having an effective third Bush term with a man like McCain at the helm.