Forbes is right!!!

I was the most supoortive husband there coiuld be. I took our kids to the doctor made the appointments, chaufered them to their lessons and friends. I took care of the house and the shopping and the laundry. I earned as much or more than my wife. She had a title a position, long hours, affairs and we ended in divorce. My kids are still in therapy.

-- John Smith

And of course, this never happens with the genders reversed. Except maybe with the genders reversed, the husband can have affairs, and the wife doesn't divorce him because she can't support herself without his income.

Get real. Non-career people cheat, get divorced and do all sorts of horrible things like everyone else, of both genders.

I went to a very reputable private liberal arts university, and economics was the most popular major , particularly among the frat scene (i guess the fratty boys were all dreaming of becoming high-powered business men after graduation). The major consisted of 9 classes, and it wasn't very hard. Lots of economics majors did a double major, since its meager requirements left plenty of time to branch out into other interests. I tacked it on after my CS degree to prepare for business school.

I mean, after "sociology" or "american studies," it might be the easiest major my school had.

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LeCastor (Oil) -

"why not let everyone pursue what they think is important instead of imposing your opinions on them?"

I don't understand: you object to me speaking?

not at all, though i wish you weren't so rude. I really don't want to make you angry, and I'm not sure what it is i've said that has made you so angry with me.

"why should you or society tell them that they should get married and have children and move to the suburbs?"

I never said that - that's how you interpreted what I said - further proof you're not listening.

Well, you said orgasms and sex are shallow. Those are your opinions, and you've also said that we should all be working to create a "decent" environment to raise children in.

"between Janet Jackson's tit, and the gender wage gap, i think the gender wage gap is more important, you catch my drift?"

Janet's tit stalled her career and (with my help) the wage gap is closing.

See, i think the fact that she had to go on TV to apologize is absurd. 1/2 of a second of a tit, and busybody puritans like yourself are all up in arms. lighten up.

"Love isn't rainbows and lollipops and flowers all the time -- it's an adult endeavour."

Is not - I first fell in love in elementary school. Puppy love (for a teacher) but love none-the-less. Love is a life endeavour but I wouldn't expect you to understand that seeing how you don't acknowledge the worth of respecting anyone else's life. Not even kids.

When did i say i don't respect people's lives? I respect their lives very well and good. And i would expect others to allow me to live my life how i want to, if i lay off of their lives. I think i would probably kill myself if i became a stay at home mom, but i'm not telling women not to do it, or that they are horrible people for doing it. I don't really like children, so i don't understand why i should let folks like your overrun all my adult freedoms with the "think of the children" argument.

"If i were a man, i would find this incredibly degrading."

You're not - though you're working on it,...and the worst kind.

How low can you go?

"It took a driven, superaggressive, egocentric, almost lunatic dynamo to rock the world the way she did. Unfortunately, she was that same person at home, where that kind of conduct doesn't work. She simply never understood this."

Superaggressive. Egocentric. Lunatic. At home,...she,...never understood.

Yeah, you think other very accomplished people are not driven, supperaggressive, egocentric or almost lunatic? You think Donald Trump is all peaches? Please. those qualities are admired in men.

Nice. And here's Germain Greer on your hero - who you sound like:

"She would become breathless with outrage if she didn't get the deference she thought she deserved,...her behaviour was often tiresome,..."

Yeah, i would become that way too if i had to talk to people like sexist pigs and Phylis Schafly.

Friedan falsely accused her husband of domestic violence too, though (to her credit, but years later) she recanted by taking refuge in the (cowardly) "taken out of context" defence:

"My husband was no wife-beater, and I was no passive victim of a wife-beater. We fought a lot, and he was bigger than me."

Um, sure.

"The origin of The Feminine Mystique was not, as Friedan later claimed, the sudden realization of the "woman problem" by a naïve suburban housewife. Instead, Friedan's feminism was rooted in her extensive involvement with radical politics and labor journalism beginning in the 1940s."

Doesn't make it any less valid of descriptive of the problem.

"When Friedan and others argue that women need to leave the domestic sphere and get jobs, [Bell] Hooks says lower-class women have always had to work and domestic life is a luxury for them."

So what? That doesn't mean that many women are unhappy at home.

And, since you're willing to trash the Suffragettes for their excesses, here's a moldy golden oldy from Ms. Freidan:

"The shallow unreality, immaturity, promiscuity, lack of lasting human satisfaction that characterize the homosexual's sex life usually characterize all his life and interests."

She's wrong, but does this invalidate her views on domestic women?

I don't want to make you angry, Louis. When you lash out at me with low insults, you make yourself look bad, as if you've got nothing else to say, except insult me. You would be much more convincing if you stuck to the arguments.