Salon contributors are in a better position to do something about it by broaching the subject on air somehow, which would most certainly get some attention. But my guess is that you won't be seeing anyone from Salon doing anything of the sort because Salon wants to have access to outlets like MSNBC to promote its own product (i.e. YOUR attention for paying advertisers).

-- a high-falutin' lawyer

I don't know if they would or not, but, you might have noticed, that Glenn Greenwald has written about the subject, twice now, for three days running. And the title of his article has appeared on Salon's front page as Most Popular". Salon reside in a vacuum. MSNBC and even the corporate heads of GE can read and no doubt do read Salon. So, your challenge to Salon's participants is empty.

Also, what is more is anymore "utter doggerel" about cable TV in comparison to regular network TV? What's the damned difference. Regular TV has Brian Williams. Cable TV has Hannity and O'Reilly. What's the difference?

By the way, Olberman just addressed the subject, pretty much in it's entirety, on Countdown. He also slammed Bill O'Reilly in his Worst Person segment.

The question is what to do about it. Obtaining some sort of legal or regulatory solution is highly improbable. A good first step, in my mind, is to stop consuming MSNBC and other GE owned content. A good step on that path is to get rid of your cable service, since some portion of what you are paying to your "local" cable company is going straight to MSNBC and Fox, whether you watch them or not.

It's interesting that, despite the extremely problematic nature of what it is MSNBC and other GE owned news outlets do, as identified in Glenn's blog recently, Salon contributors and editors regularly appear on MSNBC. Next time one of you all are on the channel, why don't you take the opportunity to raise this issue on air?

-- a high-falutin' lawyer

In one paragraph it's "Throw away your TV". In the next paragraph it's go on TV and state your opinion. What would be the point of Salon "contributors and editors" stating their opinion when they had already thrown out their TV's and advised all of their readership to do the same? Who would be listening? Who would even book them since the O'Reilly and Limbaugh type fans would now have MSNBC to themselves anyway since you told everyone else to "Throw away your TV"/Cable?

Thanks for posting that link. I'd read it before and was trying to remember where so that I could relocate it and post it. Libertaintfree is one FOSMoFo. Either that or he or she thinks we're all as ignorant and lazy as the clowns he or she runs with, and so wouldn't have already learned of the deceit behind the astroturf driven phonies who show up at the forums.

No wonder people are missing the point. Too many big words, Glenn, especially for people used to the TV vocabulary level.

-- AronBlue

That's what is so embarrassing about those who jump in with their self satisfied craptastic comments. Not only do their comments make it clear that they are ignorant about what the point of the post is, but they will remain ignorant because they obviously were too gawddamned lazy to even read the post before commenting on it.

I don't know the precise percentage, but about a third is not too far off of a guesstimate of how many commenters have misunderstood and/or misrepresented the point of this post today and the other post on this subject from Saturday. Stellaa might have, more than anyone else, wasted every word on a complete misinterpretation and consequent misdirected comment. That's without counting Elephantman, because, why bother counting Elephantman.

I mean, I don't get it.

--Elephantman

If you're in need of exercise for your brain, which you aren't finding here at this time, take a look see at Paul Rosenberg's latest post at OpenLeft.

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the truth is not a popularity contest.

-- mary_steyr

The only thing that is true about the episode that you're pushing is that some guy posted that Olberman should be removed from MSNBC because...why? Because Olberman, on his show, told Bush the "shut the hell up". Then a hundred and six really concerned citizens who were clutching pearls and hankies signed in agreement that Olberman should be removed from MSNBC for telling Bush to "shut the hell up". What does that have to do with a "popularity contest"?

Don't let the cat out of the bag, but some people are going to get pissed off at David Letterman and try and get him removed . . . .

-- totallyblase

You mean for having that Russian Ballet dancer on his show? ;o)

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I am not suggesting that it is genuine,but it is better and more credible looking than a laser printout from 2007.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

-- something stinks

You're not suggesting that it's genuine but you chose to post the same link twice in one comment. World Net Daily, no less. Great.

Couldn't you find any links to the truth about the murder by Hillary Clinton of Vince Foster?

Anther Salon post that tells the opposite story of the one you were telling.

Yesterday or today Salon posted a David Sirota article critical of not only the health insurance industry, but also of the politicians who are bought by them.

Thanks to our undemocratic system and our corrupt campaign finance laws, the healthcare industry doesn't have to fight a 50-state battle. It can simply buy a tiny group of congresspeople, which is what it's done. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, health interests have given these 13 members of Congress $12 million in campaign contributions -- a massive sum further enhanced by geography.--David Sirota

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