"There are so many questions about how we would withdraw troops," she said. "The only way out -- unless we were able to go North into Turkey, which we were not able to do when the preemptive invasion began -- means we would have to go through some very dangerous territory along roads."

Clinton said she worries "that we will compound the danger to our troops if we don't plan carefully. And there's no reason to have any confidence in the planning of this administration. They have consistently demonstrated a level of incompetence that I find deeply troubling."

-Senator Hillary Clinton

She is not alone in her concern.

Lugar and the former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., seem to share Clinton's concern, having introduced legislation that would require the president to plan for a withdrawal of U.S. troops and report on those plans to Congress by October.

According to Nablgobles they are all conspiring to overthrow our armed forces.

Make that 'nabalgoebbels'. My German is weak.

Tsk. As always, IOKIYAD.

-- shooter242

Could you possibly be more repetitive and boring than you are? I suppose you could be. But please, don't prove it.

LOL. God forbid that a shining light of optimism be allowed to survive by the purveyors of doom and gloom.--shooter

The General in charge of making the assessment and the report isn't supposed to be "the shining light of optimism" fergawdsakes, he's supposed to assess the situation and then tell Americans, and it's government, the truth. You know? The truth? With all the unpleasant realities and such?

Well, the bad news is that he [Robert Fisk] despises us. The good news is that he agrees with us, or least with Glenn, albeit for his own very interesting reasons. Worth reading.

http://news.independent.co.uk/fisk/article2788619.ece

-- William Timberman

I was very surprised when I heard that Robert Fisk had made such a broad-brush comment about blogs. I've read his writings for quite some time and have long considered him to be one of the best.

Strange that in the very article he makes that comment, he writes a critique of MSM papers which happens to be the same type of critique that Glenn has often posted on his...blog.

Fisk, for his own mental health if for no other reason, needs to become aware of what he is clearly unaware of. That being - according to what he writes about on a regular basis - he is missing out on friends and like-minded people who are trumpeting the same causes that he is, and fighting hard to get the word out, just as he is.

Wouldn't it be irresponsible for Petraeus, or anyone else in command, to go around telling all the troops the war is lost? Has it ever occurred to you posers that no matter what his personal feelings are, the reality is that American troops are on the ground in Iraq, and the Generals are not the ones who decide when/if we can bring them home. So while we are there, for the sake of the lives of the men in theater, Gen Petraeus needs to give us, and the enemy, the impression that we are determined to win.

Determined to win what? Is there an army in Iraq or a national whatsit in Iraq that is going to 'surrender' and lay down their arms? No.

"Wouldn't it be irresponsible for Petraeus" to lie to the grown men and women in the US military in Iraq who are risking life and limb? "Wouldn't it irresponsible for Petraeus" to treat these grown men and women as though they were simps or children who needed to be lied to?

Why do you think being lied to is okay?

Here's Bucky:

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Here's Kit ...

Back to take a poke, but afraid to name even a candidate he could support. Another cheap attack artist.--Bucky

At what point in your participation at Unclaimed Territory was it that you decided that the comment section of the blog belonged to you and that the questions and comments were under your direction?

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And just out of curiosity, has he served in the military? If so, he ought to have indicated it; if not, he ought to be careful about throwing stones.

-- PhilSheehan

I don't know if he has or not. But, just as you are missing the point of Blumenthal's premise of the entire video, you are missing the point (or purposely going around the point) that Blumenthal, unlike the College Republicans, is not cheerleading the "war" that the college Republicans fail to enter due to hangnails, or due to their stated explanations that they consider themselves to be too fucking smart and valuable to serve in, what they must consider to be, the lowly and beneath them, armed forces.