I never knew the sum total of a President's legacy is entirely determined in the first 9 months in office....this is new to me.

-- Santos L. Halper

First off it is you, not I, who is saying "a president's legacy is entirely determined in the first 9 months in office" so don't complain to me about what you are saying as you lie that it was I who said it.

Secondly, it seems strange that you make up that lie, and that point, about short time of building of a legacy not being fair while the issue here is that Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize which they apparently began considering and deciding on back in February, barely one month after he was inaugurated.

Peace Prize process linked below and at signature

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html

It backfired on Bush, just like its backfiring on the Birthers/Beckers/Teabaggers. And yet you think the Left should emulate their tactics?

-- Santos L. Halper

While Obama is indeed emulating Bush's tactics, The Left isn't emulating the tactics of the teabaggers.

Teabaggers screamed Obama is Hitler and "Obamacare" will kill Grandma, take over your right to choose your doctor and other lies. Those lies are just an iceberg tip of the lies told by the teabaggers and their fake 'grassroots' lobbyists.

The Left criticizes Obama because he continues to fight to maintain Bush policies through the courts and through Congress. He also continues to cover for the Bush administrations many alleged and known crimes. Those are also just an iceberg tip of what The Left criticizes Obama for. Those criticisms, unlike the teabaggers, aren't lies, they are the truth. And so their is no comparison between the "tactics" of the teabaggers and the criticisms that The Left is voicing about Obama.

You've been saying that same shit that I quoted from you all day long. Please stop lying about what we are criticising about Obama. We're telling the truth. If you can't handle the truth feel free to do as Glenn has advised others to do today, leave this venue and go to where you will be more comfortable. Whitehouse.com and Dnc.com.

Just saying. Everyone can now return to playing nice with the boobs amongst us. For myself, until banned, I'll give them what they deserve--a throat punch followed by a swift kick to the sack. Rhetorically and metaphorically speaking of course.

-- rrheard

You're guessing as to what it is that Glenn is fed up with. Personally, I don't think it's a few well earned swear words directed at those who earned them that is causing his angst. Just my guess.

Feingold does indeed express extreme exasperation with what just took place regarding the Patriot Act boondoggle. But this kind of crap has been going on now with the Democratically controlled congress, and now the Democratic administration since the beginning of each. Does Feingold know that we'd have his back if he totally and completely dedicated himself to using the full force of his position to really and truly do something about it? Is he willing to put it all on the line? Because I don't think he could lose even if he did put himself out there in full view in opposition to the shenanigans that his party and the administration have been up to.

it's about the American media.

one central assertion has been repeated as fact over and over by the American media to make the story as incriminating as possible:--GG

That last trait is a sure sign of someone who's full of it.

-- omooex

I was about to post something quite similar to getdicked as what you posted to getdicked. In fact I even began the post and decided to wait.

There are websites dedicated to uncovering phony military pretenders like I suspect getdicked is. And if he isn't a phony then how often do you find, as you said, a veteran or someone who is currently serving that crams his asinine self appointed hero shit down everyone's throats nearly every time that he posts a comment? It's unseemly.

Salter argues disingenuously on just about every subject. He would argue against and have another take on ever word and sentence in the entire constitution of the US if that were his assignment. Arguing is his whole shtick. If it weren't then I guess he really believes that if he were held for years for no reason but then finally let go, or finally convicted on trumped up bullshit charges he'd consider that to be fair enough since it could be argued in some grossly twisted legalistic way that his civil liberties were not in fact, according to someone in power, impinged upon, just his 'temporary' freedom while all the kinks were being worked out.

The following is just one tiny example of how hundreds of thousands if not millions of US citizens have had their civil liberties either abused or potentially abused. The 'potential' threat of abuse is just as much of a threat to us all as is actual abuse.

In April 2009, officials revealed that a Justice Department review found that since the passage of the Protecting America Act the NSA intercepted private e-mail messages and phone calls of Americans on a scale that went beyond the broad legal limits established by Congress.

The overcollection problems appear to have been uncovered as part of a twice-annual certification that the Justice Department and the director of national intelligence are required to give to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on the protocols that the N.S.A. is using in wiretapping. New details are also emerging about earlier domestic-surveillance activities, including the agency's attempt to wiretap a member of Congress, without court approval, on an overseas trip.

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