I try to avoid cliches. Bad writing, you know? But, Checkmate, you know the one about 'choose your battles'? Well I can't disagree with anything anyone has written in this thread, derogatorily, about Shooter. His poor reputation is written in granite. There is no such thing as discussing or meeting half way with or spending a minute of your time replying to Shooter that won't ultimately be wasted.

I appreciate your efforts to point out the difficulty of having a dialog with people that brook no dissent.

That excuse for the abuse you deservedly take on was old the first time you used it, Shooter. It's as shot full of holes now as you are. "FREE SCOOTER"."Plaim wasn't covert". The redheaded hag and her husband said so, so it must be true. Right?

And most importantly, if someone else jumps in and questions this behavior in any way, shape, or form, then they too shall get deemed as no longer acceptable to the group. Insults, exaggeration of the position taken, etc will be hurled forth until said interloper is knocked to the ground.

Or maybe we are just expressing our opinion based on what we know of who, and what ever it is, that you are trying to defend.

Your dramatic exit is self indulgent.

But now I'm supposed to slink away because I dared to ask a question concerning Shooter and in so doing criticized the group about not being civil? And apparently that's a capital offense ...

Well, three words sum it up for me.

Fuck You All

Again with the drama queen shit. I won't speak for others who have posted to you anymore so than I already have. In that I said that I agree with every derogatory remark they all made about Shooter. You don't seem to be able to separate how we all know what a despicable poster Shooter is from our trying to tell you that we are a long time convinced that Shooter is a despicable and useless poster.

I have no idea why you are, all on your own, choosing to base your credibility here, and your being welcome or not welcome here, on Shooter or your opinion of Shooter. Why don't you just do the obvious.? Come to understand that we damn well disagree with you only about Shooter. Shooter isn't worth anymore than the encrusted tobacco juice in an old western saloon spittoon.

After you come to grips with that you might go on to the next subject rather than grovel and become mired in your defense of the horrid poster known as Shooter. What's so hard about that?

I certainly didn't want to ruin this thread, but the mob mentality springing forward from certain people is a little hard to take.

Freaking Darth-Vader Cheney !

How am I going to live that one down?

You seem to be stuck on self absorbed 'drama queen' mode. Seriously. I'm not joking.

From what I've read and observed so far today, you people aren't worth it.

Then why are you still here?

"Your argument neglects"

I think you'd do well to read the book before making such a declarative statement.

Shooter is so scared that he has forgotten that the 'single most important question in the world is 'What is the meaning of life'?;o)

Folks? Can you imagine thinking that the toothless nutbar in Iran has the standing to bring the world the 'single most important question in the world'? My gawd...what a frightened, shivering, glassy-eyed, incapacitated person is the Shooter242.

Have you read the f'ing book already, Shooter?

Now, I'm wishing that Salon's editors would have taken a hacksaw and completely excised Greenwald's column of today. For it has to be the most obnoxious,

I'll keep this simple and concise for you, Tim. Salon's 'editors' have not a speck of say or editing desire or power to change a word that Glenn Greenwald writes on this blog. That's in the contract. So, if you have a problem with Greenwald's writing style you're SOL screaming about it to the Salon 'editors'.

Did shooter

Just admit Bush was homicidal?

I think he did.

Yeah. He messed up and admitted that Bush is the equivalent of thousands and thousands of suicide bombers.

Except of course that Bush not only doesn't have to die for his cause, he just gets more and more wealthy. Nonetheless, he is despised by millions around the world for being such a murderous fool.

America has a lot of work to do to save our reputation after having allowed our nation to be lead by this horrid buffoon.

However, with today's Salon home page blaring, "Preordering week for 'A Tragic Legacy' My new book, to be released June 26, examines...," it was difficult to avert my eyes, hold my nose or swallow my outrage.

-- Tim W. Brown

What a dick.

So you say.

Buck. You just inadvertently admitted that I was not only telling the truth but that I was exactly correct about what you were going on about, and that you were lying about what you were going on about.

It's not easy to cover your tracks when you're a compulsive liar, Bucky.

I have to go to the store so I can have something for dinner. But before I go I want to point out that I have few agreements with Mona, which just goes to showya that we who disagree can sometimes completely agree.

...Greenwald's rants about other pundits' rants who, in their rants, rant about other pundits ranting about still other pundits' rants.

Amazing that you posted such a stupid sentence in your attempt to dis a writer.