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Sunday, June 22, 2008 09:27 PM

What the world really needed another article about a long since dead candidate

Besides a few antidoal groups and individuals where is the numbers to back up that there is any significant Clinton supporter Obama Backlash? The recent national and state by state polls just do not show this group to actually exist outside of Salon and the rest of the press. Obama has enjoyed about a 5 point average bounce in national polls and his bounce in the Appalachia states has been in the mid teens where states like WV that where once thought to be untouchable for him are well with in 10 points. I am just confused why with these numbers anyone is talking about a candidate that lost officially what 2 weeks ago, lost in the press about a month ago, and lost in reality at the end of February.

But, I will play along. To the first point. I can't imagine a similar situation as I can't think of any candidate in a primary in the history of American politics that continued after losing 10 straight races, had such a overwhelming probability of overcoming the delegate deficit, their campaign went into debt and did not pay the vendors, there opponent was raising at least 1.50 if not 2 for every dollar raised, and went into there pocket not once but at least three times for multi-million dollar loans. And to the rest, it was Clinton that made which states and voters counted more than other states an issue, if she dropped out like every other serious (excepting the issue oriented campaigns and the never had a shots like Gravel or Denis) candidate in history after Wisconsin would have. This is Clinton's mess to clean up (if she wants power and influence within the party) as there is little Obama can say or do that he has not already.

To the second point, it might have been the first time for a white women but Clinton despite her rhetoric was not the first women to win a primary, that honor goes to Shirley Chisholm who won New Jersey in 1972. But, there was hardly if any mention of this gender pioneer by Clinton.

The the third point, nice false cry of sexism. This whole point rests on people did not vote for someone else but voted against Clinton, and not only that but they voted against her because she was a woman. Of course again there is no evidence of this and in fact the exit polls show the exact opposite that those that claimed gender was an issue voted over whelming in favor of Clinton. It is also nice to see that Rebecca seems to dismiss women such as Napolitano who have much more charisma than Clinton.

Forth, your kidding right? Sexism was a major discussion on the internet, the editorial page and the talking head shows before New Hampshire and the discussion was continued all though the election cycle. The talk of anything but sexism not enough attention paid to the awful flimsy issue?

Fifth, rings extremely hollow coming from Salon that in several places linked to at least a half dozen media reports of all the sexism. On top of that the sexism in the media has been overplayed by the Clinton supporters. They point out the same five or six examples some to be an example of sexist have to be twisted into pomo nonsense. Most of the examples cited are from either well known republicans or Chris Matthews, they exaggerate what Olbermann said into a sexist comment when the comment had no allusions to gender. It also adds charges of sexism to a practice the press does to ever single candidate that is losing and has not dropped out which of course dismisses that it was the press that kept her campaign alive pretending that after Wisconsin that the race was still close and she had a legit shot of pulling it off when the rules of the game made it such a long shot that I had more of a chance of getting struck by lighting watching the Kansas City Royals win the world series.

Onto the sixth point. The general public does not care about Dean, he is too inside baseball for anyone but high info voters to know or care about. It does not surprise me that those that support Emily's list are pissed and or hate him since his 50 state plan and most of the candidates that where on the top 30 target list actually won a few races while the comparable Emily's list candidates lost in the last election cycle.

On to the next bit of nonsense. Again Doyle is an inside baseball type person meaning no one outside of the most high info voter has ever heard of her or cares about her. The number of people that know and give a shit about her and any message her hiring might single is less than vote for the Communist candidate each cycle in other words you could put them in a rural high school gym and still have plenty of space for friends and family.

8 though 10 are just nonsense pop psychology.

11 This election was for the most part an election in demos. Clinton's strongest demo was white women over the age of 45 with no other demo coming close. Of course not all of her supporters came from that demo nor does everyone in that demo support her but if you want to talk about pissed off Clinton supporters you start with this demo not under 30 post grad black males, especially when the antidol examples have been old white women spouting racist nonsense or a women with a history of racist behavior. Might as well blame the media for this one too.

12 woo is them as this happens to just about everyone.

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