you're too hard on guys and too easy on women, as usual.

there are guys who want women covered up and guys who want them exposed and guys who like women however women want to be dressed (like me).

There are also women who want women exposed, covered up, or whatever.

It is not a gender thing. It IS, as we both agree, a social/cultural/religious thing-- but again, it is not only the right that has its prudes.

You would be surprised that many on the right and center are quite libertine and not bothered by sexuality or exposed bodies. I imagine you would be at first shocked to think some on the left are victorian style prudes, but there are many.

Which leads back to this article writer. Even if feminism had zero to do technically with TCF's attittude towards Palin and her swimsuit, you can argue many different ways that feminism does not exist, thrive, grow, expand in a vacuum.

Inevitably, as a revolution that aspires to be a complete lifestyle, feminism will acquire many of the elements of personality that its practitioners will embrace.

So if many feminists become enthusiasts of covering up the body, ala, Saudi Arabia, then it is part of the movement's image, even if not originally intended. One can see that being a feminist, for instance, might predispose one to think a certain way, leading to some end result, hence the [theoretical] covering up.

I would not say this except that I see this sort of snarky thinking among feminists all the time. It is an extension of the behavior I remember among women from high school.

I dare say, among women on the right, this might not even be as prevalent as it is on the left, partly (I don't say) because feminist thinking to me seems to generate a very negative attitude among women or to attract women with a negative attitude while the right seems to attract women with a positive attitude who are less apt to be snarky.

Just saying, my preference of course is to be around women who are better than that, who do not snark without considering how their attitude might look to others-- immature, hypocritical, subjective-- whatever.

I think a lot of guys do not like to be around nasty short sighted women who throw unfair accusations at others, because, inevitably, the guy becomes a target in his own way in the end. The women I have dated who have been right leaning have largely kept their mouths shut about my ample imperfections. The women I have dated who leaned left tended to be immature snarky bitches in the end, as if their pathetic jabs at the end of the relationship just HAD to come out or else they would explode or something. Makes me feel SORRY for them really.

But it is yet another reason people, me included, grow up and abandon the left. They see it as transparent and willful immaturity.

My reaction to her, and the way the Republican Party threw her in our faces,

WOW. Just wow. Thrown in your face, huh? How were they supposed to present it, as a holographic spectre that begins to fade into view over the course of weeks? This sort of comment just cements my prejudices that irrationality often seems to rule over women and feminism.

and the pandering and hypocrisy that was behind their decision to do so, was immediate, visceral, and indeed, vicious.

As if the left never panders and is never hypocritical? Look at your own party before casting aspersions.

I have crossed every line I believed should never be crossed in public discourse -- I have criticized not only her policies and her record, but her hair, her personal style, her accent, her abilities as a mother, etc. I've also begun to suffer personally and professionally.

Again, out of control much?

I bore my friends with my constant tirades against her, and am constantly distracted from my work by my need to continually update myself on the latest criticism, and indeed, ridicule, of her. In my hatred for her, I have begun to hate myself.

The problem with the left and with feminism is that it has allowed itself to perpetuate unchallenged. I blame the left for this freeform hatred mongering.

A rational person might have issues with a candidate such a Palin, I know I do, but vicious hatred that consumes you? C'mon. I wish I HAD that luxury (well, not really).

I knew girls like this in high school. There is a visceral reaction they have to any girl that acts outside of the accepted norms of the borg brood. A sad commentary on the hypocrisies inherent to feminism and leftist so 'thinking'.