If you were knowledgeable, then this would indeed be bad. But you're not. You've had bad experiences and you've read a few books. I'm sorry, but the world is bigger than that.

I will use this argument against any woman that complains about something like men. No amount of experience or reading is ever good enough. brilliant!

Are there good women? Of course there are, I meet them often enough to know this. Are they into ME? Depends... is she looking for a guy whose daddy owned a company? Is she looking for a hot guitar toting stranger to rev her engine? Is she seeking someone with a steady supply of narcotics? I cannot fulfill any of these typical criteria women seem to expect.

See your contradictions? You say there are good women, and then you say they would be looking for 'hot guitar toting strangers to rev her engine' or for 'someone with a steady supply of narcotics'. Is this what you call a good woman? Oh boy, just imagine the bad ones... Seriously, Brightstar, the kind of woman you mention here is the one you should avoid like the plague. If a 'good woman' like that came to me, I'd say 'no thanks' and go look for another one, no matter how 'hawt' she is. Why do you settle for so little?

I said some of the good women are like this. of course many women will not admit what they are looking for. Nearly any woman who is decent looking is probably looking for a swinging time with a hottie, exactly the kind of guy I lament I am not.

or WAS not. I have learned to play that role-- but like you say, why would I WANT to be with any woman who WANTS such a guy?

In the end, Brightstar, you're just overgeneralizing based on your own experience and having read a few books. My experience in America was the exact opposite of what you describe. I'm sorry, but the world is bigger than you think. Your opinions are wrong--I'm just afraid there's no way you'll ever see that. You've been "indoctrinated"...

I see lots of schlumpy guys with nice women. My friends and I play a game, we try to figure out the draw the guy has. Maybe he inherited a ton of money from family, maybe he made it himself. Maybe he is really good at talking up women. Maybe he kisses ass really well.

I am first gen American, my parents came here with the proverbial one suitcase. I am making my way through life, I do not have a fortune to rely on to get a decent girl. Until recently, I did not even have the social savvy to have some pull.

The mistake I made in my life was in taking advice from women-- who have a game of their own to navigate in their heads by not expressing what it REALLY is that pulls them to men.

Really, women should not be anywhere NEAR boys. You largely end up with deluded, lost, depressed and sad young men.

what is your point?

Here is YOUR problem with what I say.

especially when they're only based on one person's experience.

Your statement is complete and utter nonsense.

Sure, I have firsthand experience. I an not some shuttered person, I have met thousands of people literally and pride myself on being exposed to as many segments of society as possible.

Also, I read a lot, not just bullshit agenda-driven liberal literature, but much of what is out there.

Also, I observe. All the time. I see what is going on in the lives of those around me.

I have lived in numerous place, met many people and shared beers and other substances with them: from Hell's Angels bikers, to debutantes from Charleston, to Elites whose parents are in the Canadian Parliament, to wealthy older folks with ranches in Wyoming, to billionaire dot com kids, to older black folk who live on pensions, to Mexican immigrants who helped me build my house, to old Austin hippies, soccer mom types, to fundie kids from Greenwich, to Jewish artists in NYC, documentary filmmakers, zine writers, libertarian candidates, ..you get the point.

To dismiss me as some isolated case is disingenuous in the extreme.

Or else explain to me how a blowhard arrogant bitch like Susan Faludi can write a supposed authoritative book not only explaining what all feminists are thinking but ALSO what ails men! MEN!!! HAs she ever BEEN a man?!?

I'm done with you and your legion of prejudices against me.

I get it,

women doll themselves up to be a sex object.

then they object to being treated like a sex object.

good joke.

no wonder so many women are always so happy and so many men feel like shit.