you seem sober and sane and respect my right to an opinion, so I will be respectful to you...

You mentioned that there ARE no "good women" out there unless they come from some religious sect or ignore the media. Since I'm an exception to that rule (as an atheist who married the first man she ever slept with), I have to believe there are others like me out there. What are you angry at? That there aren't enough of us out there or that you haven't been able to find one for yourself, so instead you turn it on women not being what YOU want. Most women (in this country at least), have grown up with the notion that you marry for love, not because the male members of your family told you so.

I disagree with arranged marriage to the extent that I DO believe in the possibility of true love. Yet, I harbor suspicion that this free for all, "marry based on lust" way of living is equally bad in the opposite direction.

I suppose in a society that were to wisely teach its young boys and girls who to marry and who to avoid, people would then choose a lovable partner who would also be a good person.

You may not have followed my threads over the years on Salon, but one of my laments is the despicable record women have in choosing men then complaining about it to others while taking the fruits of the failed marriage and moving onto the next failed marriage. Reprehensible and makes men cynical in general towards women.

Like it or not, if a woman is even marginally attractive and charming in the USA, she has her pick from dozens of potential suitors. Inevitably, absent other criteria, she will shack up and maybe marry the bum who charms her the most. I see this almost universally in Austin, where I live part of the time. Well, charm only means he is playing a good GAME. A REAL man, one who is good for marriage, will rarely be a charmer, being too honest to play games.

Do you not see the disconnect?

I learned. I finally read the books and split myself off from my early FALSE indoctrination in the liberal/feminist agenda driven school system that women want 'nice' men.

I learned that the nastier you are to women, the MORE they adore you. I simpered, alone, for two decades, wondering why I had no pull with women other than this driftwood sense that occasionally one would take the initiative to get to know me and it might spark a relationship.

I was socially retarded, in other words, and firmly outside the candy store window staring in. Other guys were reprehensible scumbags but NEVER short of female love or attention.

Anyway, that is my background, and since I lost my point, I will move on to your other paragraph.

What you seem to be implying is that since there are men who want to get married, and women who want to get married, they should get married, though no connection or emotion might be there. Why would I want to spend my life with someone I might not even like, much less love? I'd rather be single forever and complain about it than be caught in a loveless marriage. Why does this appeal to you?

No, I am implying that men want marriage but there are no good women to marry. When a man says "good woman" he means a trustworthy, respectful, honest person who is GGG and who WANTS HIM.

In many men's view (as men wake up) we are realizing feminism was about training women to DESPISE men. Well, what sort of woman would a man want to be with, one who despises him or one who adores him? You can see why the younger generation of women REJECTS feminism, the label and the beliefs.

So, I threw the question of why at the women. Women, walking the streets in a stupor, proclaim there are no good men out there.

A man would rip his own arm off and feed it to a bear to be with a good woman he could trust and love. Yet men are largely, and increasingly, avoiding marriage altogether. which begs the question WHY? (I know the answer)

The American way and what it teaches women is the failure of the system.

if you want to know why, go talk to the men who were the cause for these laws: domestic abusers, rapists, etc. (Anonymous_Too's father was one such person, and so was mine.) They're the cause of this situation.

2 things.

1. the women choose the baddest men, not the best men. So ALL men must suffer due to the behavior of the WORST MEN (those who happen to be ALSO the most attractive due to their being bad people)?

2. if so, then apply this EQUALLY to women and set laws and rules into place to protect ALL MEN from the behavior of the WORST women.

Then we might call it fair, at least in regard to this issue.

As it stands now, men get the brunt of the worst in both directions and women get off scot free.

in my last post was meant to be bolded since it was someone else's comment (that I was responding to)

Read like my second post by clicking on my new moniker. It will answer your question.

I do not want the US to be a Fascist nation.

You apparently do.

How does this make you feel?

the more I find out about Palin, the more she frightens me.

all her jabbering about God's will betrays her genuine arrogance and disregard for humanity.

imagine her finger on the nuclear button. "destroying the world was God's PLAN!: