Letters to the Editor
Published Letters: 1824
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Seixon's a moron....
[Read the article: The leak designed to save Alberto Gonzales]
[Read more letters about this article: Here][Arne]: Where? I read the post again, and I didn't see anything like that.
[Seixon]: That's because you don't want to see it. For the sycophantically blind:
Greenwald: "Gen. Hayden's emphatic denial that they were engaged in "data mining" was not confined to that date nor to any specific program. The denials were general denials -- they were not engaged in data mining because of "the ethical considerations involved here, there are some practical considerations."
Read Hayden's full remarks, where he said that the data mining was specific, not denying that it was being done. How can you even pretend anymore?
Actually, he said they weren't data mining. But you'd have to have an IQ better than a turnip to figger that out.
But....
Here's what I asked for "where" Glenn had said something:
[Seixon, from before]: "Greenwald claimed that the data-mining program was not widely discussed."
What you're quoting here is irrelevant to that claim.
[Seixon]: Here's Greenwald, again, for your pleasure: "The only NSA program that has been "much discussed" is warrantless eavesdropping, not data mining."
Thank you. So Glenn didn't "claim that the data-mining program was not widely discussed." He said instead that the warrantless eavesdropping was the "much discussed" one (and note that this "much discussed" was some one else's characterisation of the situation, not necessarily an actual fact. But it is true that far more conversation has occured, certainly from the preznit, concerning this program (even if some blogs might have had more interest in data mining), and this is apparently what was the topic at hand in the context of "much discussed" (as used by Mueller). Where's the lie?
[Seixon]: Again, I will ask you, is this statement false or just outright obfuscation? Greenwald wrote blog posts about data mining, the New York Times had several stories about data mining, the president was asked questions at press briefings about data mining. How do you square that with Greenwald's statement claiming that only the warrantless eavesdropping was much discussed?
Because Glenn's comment is true? Anyone trying to pretend that the "national N.S.A. program that has been much discussed" (Mueller's words) was something other than the warrantless surveillance (or the entire program which included such activities) hasn't been paying attention to either court cases, newspaper commentary, back-and-forth between Congress and the maladministration, or even reality itself ... or is doing some dissembling themselves.
FWIW, I'd note that many forms of "data mining" without a warrant are also "warrantless eavesdropping".
Cheers,
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@ Seixon
[Read the article: The leak designed to save Alberto Gonzales]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]No offense, Arne, but you're illiterate. Let's go over this sentence slowly and break it down:
"It is not a driftnet over Dearborn or Lackawanna or Freemont grabbing conversations that we then sort out by these alleged keyword searches or data-mining tools or other devices that so-called experts keep talking about."
What is the subject of this sentence? Data-mining tools, or driftnet? To translate into English that illiterates like you might be able to comprehend:
It is not a driftnet... grabbing conversations that we then sort out... by these... keyword searches or data-mining tools...
You seem to think this translates into "it is not.... data-mining tools", even though "it is not" applies to the driftnet, not data-mining tools which he was using as an example to describe the driftnet.
Using a "driftnet" to grab lots of stuff that you can't hope to possibly completely review, and then using "data-mining tools" to winnow out the chaff and retrieve the potentially interesting information is ... <*Ta-da!*> "data-mining".
The term comes from the analogy of using power hydraulics to blast out a mountainside, and then run the stuff down sluices to separate out (you know, "filter out"?) the valuable ore from the slag which you put into large unsightly piles somewhere and forget about or let drift down the river to pollute someone else's land....
Cheers,
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Seixon the village eedjit
[Read the article: A new low of mindlessness for our media]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Greenwald:
"In March, 2003, Michael O'Hanlon -- the Joan Baez of our time -- was one of the signatories to a letter on Iraq policy issued by Project for New American Century, Bill Kristol's warmongering group."
[Seixon]: Oh no, what kind of war-mongering letter did O'Hanlon sign?
The United States should therefore seek passage of a Security Council resolution that endorses the establishment of a civilian administration in Iraq, authorizes the participation of UN relief and reconstruction agencies, welcomes the deployment of a security and stabilization force by NATO allies, and lifts all economic sanctions imposed following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait a decade ago.
"... and candy. Lots of candy. And ice-cream. And free money. Free money for everyone."
Also from the letter:
NATO should actively support efforts to secure and destroy all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and production facilities (a task that should unite the United States, Canada and all European allies committed to peace and non-proliferation), ensure peace and stability are maintained in postwar Iraq, and assist in the rebuilding of Iraq's infrastructure and the delivery of humanitarian relief. The Atlantic Alliance has pledged to confront the new threats of the 21st century. No current challenge is more important than that of building a peaceful, unified and democratic Iraq without weapons of mass destruction on NATO's own borders.
... by means of armed invasion.
"You're doing a heck of a job, Dubya...."
The eedjit Seixon thinks this is a condemnation of Dubya's misadventures?!?!?
Cheers,
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The sudden "urgency" comes from ...
[Read the article: Various items]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]... the proposed "get out of jail free" card in there for any prior misbehavour....
Cheers,
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@ Karen M
[Read the article: Various items]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Maybe Shooter is really just a sockpuppet/alias for a group of fraternity brothers, all of whom have access to some central "house" computer?
The "Riley Sinder" of political blogs?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/523aece7b90dde50
Cheers,