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Monday, April 27, 2009 07:53 AM
Original article: Torture and truthiness

@Big_rick: Nobody gives a shit what an idiot like you thinks.

Torture was, is and will be a federal felony under US law; up to 20 years in prison. Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld broke the law; now they should go to jail. Too hard for you to follow?

If Richard Nixon had spent the last 20 years of his life in Leavenworth instead of being pardoned and retiring to San Clemente, perhaps Bush would not have been so bold. In order to make sure this doesn't happen again, bad people need to do hard time.

So STFU with your stupid excuses for government-condoned torture.

Monday, April 27, 2009 11:03 AM

"Exigent circumstances" . . . a truly lame excuse for torture, and no defense to prosecution, as the Convention Against Torture

has correctly predicted the predilection for justification among the elites, and specifically says:

No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political in stability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.

Game. Set. Match.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:14 AM
Original article: Torture and truthiness

More bullshit form @Big_rick

So tell me, Rick, is there somewheres in the US criminal code where it says using predator drones in Pakistan is a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison??? Thought not.

And is there anything in the case law that talks about someone being sentenced to prison for using a predator drone? Huh, what's that you say???

Because in 1983 some asshole sheriff in Texas was sentenced to 10 years in prison and three of his deputies for 3 years each when the Reagan DoJ prosecuted them for water boarding criminal suspects.

Torture = it's against the law. Try to wrap your fat hed around the concept, eh?

Thursday, April 30, 2009 07:17 AM

I had the very good fortune to spend part of an evening with Elizabeth Edwards during the 2004 campaign . . .

when she and John were campaigning in Independence and Kansas City, Mo. I thought at the time that I wished it were Elizabeth who was running for office. She seemed smarter, more focused, more human and funnier than the Hairdo.

His subsequent meltdown confirms my earlier opinion. I hope Elizabeth Edwards is doing well. She's a class act.

Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:59 PM

You know, I'm starting to believe maybe we AREN'T in the business as ususal mode.

This would NEVER have happened when the First Imbecile was president. He would've spouted some garbage about the sanctity of capital.

Friday, May 1, 2009 08:23 AM

@olivepit: For the love of God, what is it you don't get. Torture is against the fucking law.

A failure to prosecute will harm the country infinitely more than prosecuting will. During the Revolutionary War, a war in which we were the decided underdog, and a war in which the consequences of failure would have meant hanging -literally - of all of the treasonous rebels, Gen. George Washington said:

Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause... for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country."- George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775.

Are you so ignorant you imagine the threat to the US from a bunch of terrorists to be greater than the threat posed to the nascent nation by the armed forces of the King of England? Fuck you apologists for torture . . .you would destroy our nation and its very soul.

Friday, May 1, 2009 09:59 AM

RE: The ticking timebomb scenario . . . for idiots like Krauthammer.

Why is Krauthammer an idiot? Reason #1 is he dove head first into a swimming pool before checking to see if there was any water in it . . . a definite no-no.

Reason #2, his bogus position on the ticking time bomb . . . IF, and I use the term advisedly, IF . . . a CIA agent or military officer believes torturing a particular suspect will save 1,000 lives . . . then go ahead and torture, save the 1,000 people, then turn yourself in, plead guilty to torture, throw yourself on the mercy of the court and cite the extenuating circumstances.

We routinely ask our armed forces or police to risk their lives and health in the line of duty. Our soldiers face the risk of capture and imprisonment. Why should we ask less of the CIA. The problem is, the CIA or torture contractors are wusses who whine and threaten not to serve in the face of adverse consequences.

Personally, I would do 5 years in a federal prison if I KNEW by doing so I would save 1,000 American lives.

Friday, May 1, 2009 10:08 AM

@Jestaplero: re: prosecutions

In 1947, the United States prosecuted Yukio Asano, a Japanese military officer, there were a series of other prosecutions at the post-World War II Tokyo Tribunal (in many of which the death penalty was sought) for carrying out a form of water boarding on U.S. detainees during World War II.

There were a court-martials addressing the practice of water boarding from 1903, a state court case from the twenties, and another court-martial in 1968 involving water boarding.

In 1983, the Reagan DoJ prosecuted Texas sheriff, James Parker, and deputies for water boarding detained suspects. The sheriff got 10 years, the deputies 4 years. The idea water boarding is not torture and/or not a crime is a myth concocted out of whole cloth by right wing hacks.

Saturday, May 2, 2009 07:07 AM

@dclach: Could you be any more frickin' clueless???

...lie about the war, did not create secret prisons, did not abrogate the Constitution (much less "trash" it) and did not torture. Kamiya simply takes such false assertions as a given...

Each of these assertions is undeniably true:

1. They lied about WMDs, they lied about yellowcake, they lied about al-Qaeda/Iraq connesxion

2. They did create secret prisons in Egypt, SYria, Poland, etc..

3. They did abrogate the Constitution and the laws of the land, including ratified treaties.

4. They specifically DID torture, according to Susan Crawford, the convening authority for US Military Commissions appointed by the Bush Administration.

Is your sole news source Fox???

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