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Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:08 AM
Original article: "No one will miss you"

Comrade manly man squared

I am not writing an academic paper. Were we having this conversation face to face, clarifying 'fight' would take all of five seconds, as soon as you started going on about it.

So now we're on to veiled threats of violence. You are proving my point. Keep digging! Also, you were the one who said you didn't mean "fight" literally. You're contradicting yourself again.

Is it your view that a person should found his viewpoints solely on peer reviewed research and discount their own experiences?

No, but if you're going to make sweeping generalizations about how gay people lack "emotional fortitude" you'd best be prepared to back it the fuck up or face ridicule from sissy heteros like myself. Why don't you just come out and say you don't like gay people? It would save a lot of time, and you wouldn't have spend so much effort swaggering.

My point is that I believe you are minimizing homophobic bullying, based on your stereotypes and your own ignorant opinions. Thank you providing more grist for the mill!

It is totally unreasonable to say, "Genetics influence sexual orientation, body hair, breast size, etc. but have no bearing on susceptibility to bullying or The Mind In General." You are saying it's flatly impossible because you don't like the implications. I'm not interpreting you as mean; I'm interpreting you as a big pussy.

First part about genetics: not only did I never assert anything of the kind, but you have no fucking idea how genetics influence sexual orientation or their bearing on susceptiblity to bullying. You completely made that up, it is simply your ass talking.

Second part: geez, you proved my point again. This particular sissy-boy pussy names you ASSHOLE. Sticks and stones. I say again, your attitude exemplifies the problem.

Chances are they would become upset, which would only lend support to my take.

Far be it for one of them to be insulted by your condescending attitude, Comrade Ultra Hetero Swinging Dick. They should understand that you have their best interests in mind, after all, you know them best, you big strapping hetero manly man.

And yes, you have been minimizing the victims of homophobic bullying since your very first post on this subject. At least you admitted that bullying is not ok. You get an hour off your detention.

You're being an emotional basketcase. Calm down. I am not inventing research, I am presenting a hypothetical situation. Are gay kids more prone to suicide than non-gay kids, due to bullying? If research says yes, that's support for my view. If research says no, it's not a feminist issue, or a gay issue, it's a bullying issue.

But you DID make up some murky, laughable research experiment that you thought would prove your point, only to fall flat on your face. It's been mocked multiple times already, not just by me. It's not my fault you're making an ass of yourself and discrediting your own opinions.

Homophobia in schools is a very real phenomenon. Your mental gymnastics do not change that fact, they only reinforce it.

Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:18 AM
Original article: "No one will miss you"

Sweet comrade

So let me get this straight. Speculation about the positive traits of a group require no backing up. But if something casts them in a light you don't like, buttloads (!) of proof are required.

I don't recall speculating on anybody's positive traits. I do recall you speculating about how gays are so much more emotionally sensitive than "normal people". You don't know that, you can't prove it, it is simply an impression you have that reveals pretty convincingly that you don't like gay people. Why don't you just come out and say it, you big pussy?

My understanding of the scientific consensus is that there's probably a genetic component. If you don't want to stipulate that, we can say there's a virus or something in how they were raised. Whatever the cause, my point remains: It's not reasonable to say that the *sole* effect of this is that a guy prefers poles over holes.

Why? And again, I didn't assert this. You asserted the opposite and you seem very sure of its truth. All I'm pointing out is that you externalizing your notions and dislike of gay people by attempting to sound scientific (and failing). You are going in circles again.

To see the fallacy, insert "black" or "hispanic" where you have put "gay." Means about the same thing and is just as grounded in fact, which is to say NOT AT ALL.

And you are more concerned with an agenda than what might actually be fact. Your feelings are supreme.

No. Yours are. I'm not concerned with what "might" be fact. I'm concerned with facts. You don't have any, but your mental gymnastics to disguise your bigoted feelings from yourself are amusing and illustrative. They are plain to everyone here except for you! Wussy boy.

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