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"It's all apart of the conservative movement's goal of halting progress in this country."-- Conservativeslayer
Better known as "family values."
Or as their top spokesperson, Rush Limbaugh, said this week:
"I would be honored if the drive-by media headlined me all day long: 'Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.' Somebody's gotta say it."-- Rush Limbaugh
Somebody already has. Al-Qaeda.
MSNBC-HARDBALL 01-22-09
SEN. KIT BOND (R-MO), INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CO-CHAIR: Well, I think it`s irresponsible to say you close Gitmo without having a plan. What are you going to do with the hardened terrorists that are there? I can`t think of any town or city in Missouri who wants to have hardened criminals, illegal combatants like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Abu Zubayda coming into their community.Now, if you don`t bring them back to the United States, if you release them, we know already that more than 60 of the people who have been released have been killing our troops, our Americans and civilians on the battlefield. If you really want to bring them back to the United States -- people in Missouri and Kansas believe Gitmo is just fine. Folks in San Francisco want it closed. I`d suggest you put them in Alcatraz.
MATTHEWS: Well, why wouldn`t you imprison somebody after holding a trial, or execute them? Why don`t we do it by law? What`s the problem with doing it the usual way?
BOND: Well, first of all, they are -- they should have military commissions to determine whether they should be incarcerated. When in the past have we ever said that an illegal combatant outside the United States has access to our court systems? We have not a -- we have a moral obligation to give them some kind of hearing to make sure that they -- that we have evidence to show that they deserve to be incarcerated.
In the past, whenever you have captured enemy soldiers on the battlefield, you`ve kept them in camps until the war is over. And I simply suggest that these people have plotted against and killed American citizens, and we do not need to bring them back into our country and give them the full rights, put them in prisons where, if they escape, they will be able to conduct their terrorist activities from American soil.
MATTHEWS: Well, we`ve got Sirhan Sirhan in jail. We`ve got some pretty bad murderers in this country who are in federal prison. Are you saying we can`t hold people who are guilty of crimes in our prisons, we`re not competent to do that?
BOND: If you have -- you have several hundred people that you would be bringing back that would flood the system. Sure, we have -- we have a murderer here, a murderer there. We have people who were engaged in a massive effort, al Qaeda and perhaps others, who have worked to provide terrorist training and direction, command and control. We don`t want them operating out of a U.S. prison or going after recruits in our prison system in America for people who may be released there.
MATTHEWS: Well, you paint a sad picture because I know we have, what, 10,000 to 20,000 murderers in this country every year. We put people in prison all the time for first-degree murder, or we execute them, and you make it sound like we don`t have the competence to keep those people from causing trouble here.
There were several things about Bond's lunatic ravings that were infuriating (particularly when he said, in regards to prosecuting the Bush crimes, "you will start a political battle at the highest level!" – oh, lordy, NO!), but why is it OK for these clowns to constantly say 'Bush has kept America safe since 9.11' (except, of course, for the Anthrax terrorist AND allowing New Orleans to drown) while simultaneously saying, as Bond does, "we know already that more than 60 of the people who have been released have been killing our troops, our Americans and civilians"? Isn't that a contradiction??
Since, inevitably, someone will be here any minute to make a comment such as I’m about to make, I want to beat them to the punch.
[ Ahem ]
Glenn!!! How can you be so surprised by this! This is nothing new! This has been going on for YEARS! I’m amazed that I’m the only one whose been aware! The media safeguards (or “safeways”) the rich, powerful, Republicans running this country! Yet, you people seemed shocked to be discovering it just now!Wake up!!!
Thank you for your indulgence.
"the US governemt is trying to prevent the terrorists from another attack on US soil."-- jtom99
Really? It's almost 8 years since both 9.11 and the Anthrax attacks and not only has neither mastermind been apprehended, the Bush adminstration didn't even pay lip service to getting them since immediately after the attacks.
Since the planners of 2 seperate, devastating terrorist attacks on US soil during Bush's term were neither apprehended nor mentioned as being a priority to apprehend, what concretely can you offer to back up your claim that the Bush government tried to "prevent the terrorists from another attack on US soil"?
The best thing about yesterday’s vote is that it came the week after Obama was sworn in. Hopefully, he has learned right from the start that there is nothing to be gained by working with Republicans, any more than you should work to find common ground with the NRA, the Aryan Nation, Fred Phelps, or any other rightwing fanatics. The GOP is a rightwing extremist organization that appeals to only the most intolerant, fringe wackos. It should be treated that way, particularly in light if the unprecedented damage they’ve done to this country over the last 8 years.
"Phelps is a Democrat."-- JoeMommaSan
I said rightwing not Republican.
As in Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman, etc.