"Liberals can blather all they want about how the War on Terror was a failure, but guess what? There hasn't been another 9/11."

-- Bellatrix LeStrange

Is that right? What about the Madrid train bombings in 2004? Or the London bombings in July 2005? Or if you're one of those "but not in America it hasn't happened again" nimrods - what about the Anthrax attacks which, like the perpetrator of 9.11, faced no response or reprisal whatsoever from the impotent, colossally weak Bush/Cheney administration?

It never ceases to amaze me how indifferent rightwingers are to Bush’s hands-off policy on Osama Bin Laden, and their refusal to hold him to account for refusing to take the warnings prior to 9.11 seriously. And if that isn't outrageous enough, they have had no problem with him doing absolutely NOTHING for the past 7+ years to take Bin Laden seriously! How's the hunt for Bin Laden going? If you answer it honestly, you know damn well there is no hunt!

I never heard of FDR sloganeering about “we haven’t had any more Pearl Harbors”, but then he responded to the attacks he faced, unlike Bush/Cheney. Also, the USA didn’t face any other attacks on the mainland under FDR which we have under Bush/Cheney with the Anthrax attacks!

"To try and give Klien the benefit of the doubt; surely the image on the day it happened was very powerful..."

-- English_roG

Really? I thought he looked like a grade-A shmuck, and I said so at the time. He looked like a child wearing his father's clothes and pretending to be a man.

The fact that many, many talking heads easily swayed by shiny objects were impressed was as ridiculous in May 2003 as it is in November 2008. There's no cutting of slack for something as obviously ridiculous as someone who avoided military service pretending to be a rugged fighter pilot.

"I remember thinking at the time that he'd managed to surpass the sheer, unashamed, over-the-top cheesiness that his father showed by having a campaign event at a flag factory."

-- bearpaw1

Yes. As I recall the flag factory he visited was in Someredale, NJ. The next town over from where I was living at the time. I didn't even know there was a flag factory there until Bush 41 found it.

Such a proud moment in New Jersey history...

1. You were wrong to say Klein wasn't revising history ("this doesn't rise to the level of revisionist history, dude.")

2. You were more interested in posting a response than you were in making sure it was a valid point.

2. "Ridiculous and silly" isn't cool. It's ridiculous and silly. Nothing George W Bush has ever done in his entire life rises to the level of "cool."

2. Greenwald probably gets pissed off at people who don't think through what they're saying yet tell him he should "give it up."

And finally, 2. How many ways can someone display their ignorance? Even a simple numbering pattern appears to be too complicated.

JKP Has A Crush, Too??

You're right. I probably should have done that off-line.

"Of course, it was the service men and women on the USS Lincoln who requested that the "Mission Accomplished" banner be made."

-- Groenhage

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/printout/0,8816,536170,00.html

TIME Magazine Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003

Not long afterwards, the White House had to amend its account. The soldiers hadn't put up the sign; the White House had done the hoisting. It had also produced the banner — contrary to what senior White House officials had said for months. In the end, the White House conceded on those details, but declared them mere quibbles. The point was, they said, that the whole thing had been done at the request of the crewmembers. Even that explanation didn't sit well with some long-time Bush aides. "They (the White House) put up banners at every event that look just like that and we're supposed to believe that at this one it was the Navy that requested one?" asked a senior administration official.

I know I shouldn't sink to level of a stay-at-home mom like Groenhagen, but do you genuinely believe gutless, sniveling, cowardly pussies like George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, et.al., are actually "super tough guys", but they just decided to PRETEND to be cowards 40 years ago when they dodged the service to stay in the warm, cozy, confines of their safe family cocoons?

I don't even have to ask. Your service, like Bush/Cheney/Limbaugh/O'Reilly/Rove, etc. is non-existent.

Eisenhower (a five-star general, Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe, and the first supreme commander of NATO) not only never wore military garb while serving in the civilian role as Commander-in-Chief, he also never saluted, since he knew the role of the president was civilian.

George W Bush, on the other hand, who not only avoided service by having his daddy pull strings to allow him to stay stateside during the Viet Nam conflict (even though Junior supported that fiasco from the comfort of home), eagerly persues dressing up as a play-pretend soldier, salutes reflexively to any actual military service members who pass by, and even feels free to desecrate the flag by signing his name to it.

http://www.cozzifantutti.com/blogphotos/bush_desecrates_flag.jpg

Imagine the outcry if John Kerry or Al Gore had done those things - and they actually served!