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Sunday, January 27, 2008 07:23 PM

ShawnWM

"In other words all the blacks who actually were actively involved with MLK and civil rights efforts have sided with HRC."

Well, two points here: I guess you missed Clarence Jones' discussion of the dust-up. (Jones was Dr. King's personal counsel and speechwriter): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/clarence-b-jones/clinton-vs-obama-lest-w_b_81667.html

Second "all the blacks who were actively involved with MLK and civil rights efforts?" This illustrates a misunderstanding of the movement as profound as Clinton's, in her LBJ remark. Thousands of African Americans were active in civil rights efforts -- Dr. King was only the most prominent spokesman of a mass social movement whose time had come. Jim Clyburn (my former rep) was one of the many civil rights activists who took issue with Clinton's top-heavy, statist view, and his contributions to the civil rights movement are unimpeachable.

In any case, if you're going to grant that Clinton started playing with racial push-buttons because she was sick of "three months" of "Rove/Obama"'s attacks, you're already on slippery ground on the race card issue. Either she played it or she didn't.

Sunday, January 27, 2008 07:57 PM

Zephmarie

I've heard that a few times now...

Can you point to a longer-version of the video online, or perhaps a transcript?

I'm not saying you're lying. I just want to see it for myself, if that's ok. Obviously, an earlier question would change the story quite a bit.

Sunday, January 27, 2008 08:44 PM

Obama accepted Rove's help?

What weird delusional talking point is this?

By the time Rove weighed in -- after New Hampshire -- the race card argument was already in full flower.

Man, some people are strange.

Sunday, January 27, 2008 08:59 PM

Anon, you're ridiculous.

1) When did Barack Obama attack Hillary Clinton with "the gender card"?

2) Could you please post a link to this supposed Rove editorial, from months and months ago?

Please, stop making up stuff as you go along.

Sunday, January 27, 2008 09:02 PM

And while we're talking about who's using Rovian tactics...

Permit me to repost an earlier comment I made:

"What do you think, at this point, differentiates Senator Clinton's campaign from the Rove playbook? Repeating distortions over and over again until people think they're true? Check. Trying to swiftboat Obama at his point of greatest strength (opposition to the Iraq war)? Check. Sending out brazenly false mailers on abortion and taxes? Check. Painting the candidate as a flip-flopper based on out-of-context Senate votes? Check. Indulging in union-busting rhetoric when useful? Check. Wallowing in the politics of fear? Check. Encouraging wedge divisiveness by rather blatantly playing the race card? Check. Voter suppression? Check. Chain e-mail smears and robocalls? Check."

If anyone's gone Rove in this primary election, it's the Clintons. Hence, the well-documented disgust among former Clinton supporters (including me, who worked for them for four years.)

Monday, January 28, 2008 09:27 AM

Might want to read the story, anon.

"Obama has been accused of no wrongdoing involving Rezko or anyone else."

Nice smear, tho'. Shall we go dig out all the cretins from Whitewater? There ended up being nothing to that either, but a smear is a smear, right? Why let the facts get in the way?

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