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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 06:11 AM
Original article: Is Detroit worth saving?

Corporate welfare for everyone

well everyone except those who didn't default on their mortgages or didn't take out a mortgage they couldn't afford. What do they get? They get the honor of their taxes paying off other people's mortgages. Isn't it great when Democrats and Republicans work together?

I was born and raised in the Detroit suburbs and I saw first hand how the auto industry repaid it's workers starting in the 80s with the first government bailout. They closed most of their plants and shipped all those jobs to Mexico and other countries, while keeping huge bonuses and pensions for upper management (the very people who's incompetence created the problem).

I think a viewing of "Roger & Me" is in order.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 09:15 AM
Original article: Is Detroit worth saving?

The idea that you have to trash the environment (by eliminating cafe standards) in order

to save the american auto industry is absurd.

There is absolutely no reason we could not all be driving cars running mostly on alternative fuels or even hybrids by this date.

The auto industry and the oil companies want to keep americans driving gas guzzling suvs.

But then the average american would have to give up there shiny piece of crap that goes vroom, vroom when they step on the gas and that's not likely to happen anytime soon.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 09:19 AM

not just right wing empathy

"I do not support gay marriage. Marriage has religious and social connotations, and I consider marriage to be between a man and a woman." (From the Human Rights Campaign's 2008 Presidential questionnaire) - Barack Hussein Obama

Wouldn't it be nice to have a president who put civil law above religious law?

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 09:22 AM

lack of empathy, I mean

even the govenator has redeemed himself somewhat....

After twice blocking equal rights for gays in California this on Sunday:

Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, an opponent of Prop. 8, expressed support for the court challenge on CNN's "Late Edition" Sunday, calling the measure's passage "unfortunate."

"But it is not the end because I think this will go back into the courts," the governor said. "It's the same as in the 1948 (California) case when blacks and whites were not allowed to marry. This falls into the same category."

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 09:31 AM

So the Democratic argument is to keep a corrupt and failed auto industry

because otherwise it would cost too many jobs?

Reminds me of the people who argue that Wal Mart is good because it gives people jobs even though they don't get health care and are paid minimum wage.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:17 AM
Original article: Is Detroit worth saving?

The advocation of a gas tax instead of cafe standards is just another example

of corporate america not paying their fair share.

If anyone thinks that corporations pay anywhere near 32% in taxes I've got a bridge to sell you.

Better yet, I'll relocate outside of US tax laws and outsource the building of my bridge, then sell it to you with a variable mortgage but don't worry, Bush and the Dem Congress will use $700 billion in tax money to pay it off.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:53 AM

For anyone interested in how corporations are destroying this country and the world

http://www.thecorporation.com

Taking its status as a legal "person" to the logical conclusion, the film puts the corporation on the psychiatrist's couch to ask "What kind of person is it?" The Corporation includes interviews with 40 corporate insiders and critics - including Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Milton Friedman, Howard Zinn, Vandana Shiva and Michael Moore - plus true confessions, case studies and strategies for change.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:53 AM
Original article: Is Detroit worth saving?

For anyone interested in how corporations are destroying this country and the world

http://www.thecorporation.com

Taking its status as a legal "person" to the logical conclusion, the film puts the corporation on the psychiatrist's couch to ask "What kind of person is it?" The Corporation includes interviews with 40 corporate insiders and critics - including Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Milton Friedman, Howard Zinn, Vandana Shiva and Michael Moore - plus true confessions, case studies and strategies for change.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 04:11 PM

And what does your hero Obama have to say about it?

(deafening silence)

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 04:36 PM

silence = consent

Obama is a political opportunist like the rest of them.....whether it's discriminating against gays, smearing Hillary and Bill as racist, or kissing Israel's ass.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 06:17 AM

Considering the Dem Congress has given Bush every single thing he wanted

this should surprise no one.

They should start a new party.....Democans or Republicrats?

Thursday, November 13, 2008 06:24 AM

Every religion founded in the middle east spreads hate and intolerence

whether it's christianity, judism, or islam.

But mormons are even worse, they are as brainwashed as scientologists.

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Thursday, November 13, 2008 06:27 AM

The first step

is to stop letting Israel dictate American policy, which is the cause of all the anger (justified) from the Arabs.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 06:55 AM

It's clear both parties prefer corporate welfare

WASHINGTON – Federal bank regulators have rejected a request by banks and consumer advocates for a program to let lenders forgive huge portions of credit card debt.

The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency rejected the request for a special program that would allow as much as 40 percent of credit card debt to be forgiven for consumers who don't qualify for existing repayment plans.

An unusual alliance of financial industry interests and consumer advocates, represented by the Financial Services Roundtable and the Consumer Federation of America, made the request to the Treasury Department agency on Oct. 29.

An agency official said the government objects to allowing banks to defer losses for several years on the forgiven debt, as would occur in accounting by lenders under the special program.

The agency "does not consider any plan that defers the timely recognition of loss as prudent, and any such proposal cannot be viewed favorably by us," Timothy Long, senior deputy comptroller for bank supervision policy, said in a letter to the two groups dated Monday and made public Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_credit_cards

But evidently it has no problem letting Wall Street defer it's losses and forgive it's debt.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 07:05 AM

Every catholic I know is in favor of birth control, a woman's right to choose, is not against

equality for gays or against letting priests get maried, etc.

Yet they still consider themselves catholic.

It's like Lieberman being allowed in the Democratic Party even though he campaigned for the Republicans.

I just don't get it.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.....it's a duck.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 07:21 AM

Clearly organized religions are at fault for Prop 8 but so is the black community

It's the same as what the black community did to Hillary Clinton.

90% of them voted for an unknown and inexperienced candidate simply because he had the same color skin but it's the Clintons who are racist?

Now 70% of blacks in California voted to discriminate against gays but gay people are prejudiced for pointing this out???

Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:35 AM

Lieberman is like owning a dog who bites you

you may not have the heart to put him to sleep but you certainly don't invite him into your bed at night.

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