As far as I'm concerned, the only proper response to the phrase "Jack Welch said.." is "Shut the fuck up." Why should I be the slightest bit interested in that that sociopath has to say? What has "Chainsaw Jack" given the world except an example of the ruthless crushing of ones' own employees, obscene CEO pay, and the de-industrialization of America?

If I were ever unlucky enough to find myself working for Jack Welch, or anyone like him, the only message I would ever hear from them, no matter what they actually said, would be "Get out now. Get out now. Get out now." Take that to heart, Randian fanboys.

That's right, it's Chainsaw Al Dunlop and Neutron Jack Welch.

Hmm, which is better for the aspiring young sociopath to be compared to, a chainsaw or a neutron bomb?

But for the defenders of Welch and his ilk, in what, besides raking in the cash and serial trophy wives, have these people ever been "successful"? They are demonstrably the WORST top managerial class in the world. They pretty much crashed the entire world economy! Why should we hire, much less honor these guys, when there are CEOs in Japan, France, Germany, China, etc. who will do a better job for 1/20 the pay?

PS: Mr. Welch? Who taught us to think that way, comparing workers and their wages throughout the world? Why, you did, sir.

No, Michael, "the rest of the world" was not in favor of maintaining slavery at the time of the Republican Party's founding. Not even most of the US.

Just white bigots in the south. You know them: today, they're your party's base.

Many analysts, however, believe that Iraq has been inadequately explored, and that the utilization of modern search technologies will yield additional reserves in the range of 45 to 100 billion barrels. If all its reserves, known and suspected, were developed to their full potential, Iraq could add as much as 6 to 8 million barrels per day to international output, postponing the inevitable arrival of peak oil and a contraction in global energy supplies.

How on Earth will "modern search technologies" do this? They find the difficult oil: the subtle stratigraphic trap, the complex fault structure. The "elephants"--supergiant fields--on the other hand, are generally fairly obvious features. That's why the peak of world oil discovery was back in 1960. Today, the supergiants can only being found in frontier areas: polar regions, the deep oceans, etc. For a mature basin, like the Middle East? Fugetaboutit.

Iraqi oil may stretch out the peak oil plateau, it may stretch out the tail, but it will not delay the inevitable. I would not bet the continued survival of world civilization, and the billions of people dependent upon it, on the existence of imaginary oil.

How is it the slightest bit more benign than the most paranoid fantasies of Communist subversion from the McCarthy era or the Red Scare? It exists purely to secretly undermine democracy, does it not? Why should we not regard them as enemies of our Republic?

Ah, yes, I see: it can claim, falsely, to be "pro-capitalist," because it promotes the interests of the established economic elite. Wonderful, so it's Fascist subversion, and the American political and media elites see them as harmless.

Anyway, the more light shed on this cult and its members, the better. Sunlight is the best disinfectant for this virulent infection.

As in, our Neofascist wackjob and defender of the legacy of a widely despised ancestor.

we're going to have us a little talk about, oh, all of those crazy things that the American people just want to know

Last I checked, I'm one of the American people (at least, according to my birth certificate, AND YOU KNOW HOW WRONG THOSE THINGS CAN BE) and I don't give a flying fig about this nonsense. We've seen his birth certificate, and that's good enough for me, the law, and the vast majority of Americans, so where does he get off calling this tiny minority of idiots "the American people?"

But it's just textbook rightwing demagoguery: "the American people" refers to white rightwing Americans, and only them. They're the only ones that count.

And Alex, thanks for bringing up the fact that no "long form" will ever satisfy Orly Taitz and the rest of the birthers. It will never answer their real beef: a n****r in the White House with a funny name.

it might perform the useful function of answering the query of some of them and separate them from those who are actually racists.

Why bother? All you Birthers are racists.

You're not, you say? Prove it. Each and every one of you Birther nutjobs: prove you're not a racist. Until you do so, we can safely assume you're all just suffering from NITWHO Syndrome (N***** in the White House).

What's the matter? Don't you like your own medicine?

You CAN very easily prove where you were born. And many Americans have to every day.

Dern tootin'. And how do they do it? Exactly the way Obama did: by showing their official birth certificate.

That's all there is. In Hawai'i, they've digitized all the record keeping. Read what the HI Department of Health has to say (at link, although IT'S ALREADY BEEN POSTED HERE).

Bottom line: THERE. IS. NO. LONG. FORM.

Sorry to shout. Sorry to swear. Sorry to resort to name-calling and and unfair tactics, on my last post. But we get fed up because YOU PEOPLE REFUSE TO FUCKING LISTEN!