Sure it'll never be done, but it's not the worst idea ever. While I remain nervous about Obama's chances, and realistic about McCain's ability to come back, Kamiya's got a small point on this one. Think there's a small chance, slightly higher than usual, that McCain actually doesn't make it to November.

His heart doesn't seem in it, other than his town hall idea he shows little interest in campaigning, and appears lukewarm to say the least about actually being president. He has already had skin cancer and, not to be mean, but if push came to shove he could always bow gracefully out of this race by claiming ill health and old age.

If so there's one Republican waiting in the wings who's won a substantial number of votes and has the ability to self-finance his own campaign: Mitt Romney.

Anyway, suppose Obama better just worry about beating McCain. But as long as we're indulging fantasies one way to get rid of a 71-year old candidate who's alienated the entire base of your Party, is to replace him with a rich, successful, 60-year old Republican ex-governor of a Democratic state who won the second largest number of states in the primary.

I'm sorry but she did not behave like someone who should be Vice President. On the contrary she behaved in a manner that makes it all but impossible TO put her on the ticket.

She said Obama wasn't qualified to be president, and she and John McCain were. She refused to admit he'd won until 4 days after the event. She went around scolding him, "Shame on you, Barack Obama." She yelled, she insinuated, she tried to intimidate. When that didn't work she tried to delegitimize his victory. She riled up her supporters to the point where many of the most hardcore would NEVER support Barack Obama even if she were on the ticket.

So what does that leave? What exactly does she bring to the ticket? Other than an open, stated hatred for the nominee, Senator Obama, and an affinity with John McCain.

Some of her more sane supporters will come around to Barack. Many of the others, who despise him and post on sites like Hillaryis44 and NoQuarter, aren't coming around to him anyway. Let's put it like this: Harriet Christian and her hatred of "inadequate black men" isn't going to vote for Barack Obama, with or without Hillary Clinton on the ticket.

Again, Senator Clinton, her staff, her husband and her supporters have no one to blame but themselves for her now being completely unviable as a Vice Presidential nominee. We have talked, ad nauseum, about all the Obama supporters have done wrong and who they've driven away from ever voting for him. Well, unfortunately, the converse is true too. Hillary Clinton by her utter contempt for Barack Obama and by taking the unprecedented step of saying the Republican is more qualified to be president than your Democratic opponent disqualified herself from this position.

If you practice a scorched earth policy and lose, the next time you go to war, even your allies aren't going to want you to come along when they have to live off the land. Hillary Clinton chose to use the kitchen sink (which her own campaign informed the media they were going to use before anyone else charged them with doing so) and the scorched earth policy. She knew they were a last resort. She knew, once she used them, that if they failed she would not be on the ticket. Now she won't. What's the problem?

In order to be Vice President one must behave in a certain way. Sending out your surrogates to pressure the presidential nominee into putting you on the ticket is not the way to do this. Waiting 4 days after you've lost to concede is not the way to do this. Your supporters threatening to vote for the Republican who stands for the exact opposite of everything you claim to stand for, is not the way.

In addition you and your supporters treating the person who won the nomination as deluded scum, simply for having ran, having the temerity to be inspirational, and bringing in new voters is not the way. Putting the word out that he can't win is not the way to do this. Saying, directly, that you and the Republican nominee are qualified to be president, but the Democratic nominee is not, is also not the way to get onto the ticket. Insinuating that your opponent's win is not an actual win, but some type of technical margin where you won some ambigious popular vote no one can put an exact figure on and were cheated out of the nomination, is not the way to get on the ticket.

Joan and others have spent months on this site describing every wrong move Obama and his supporters, no matter how minute, have made over the past 6 months.

The sad part is it is now time to admit some wrong-doing of their own. But they, of course, won't do this. The result is a simple and sadly forgone conclusion: it is now all BUT impossible to put Hillary Clinton on the ticket. Almost solely because of her behavior and that of her supporters.

They have outright said Obama is unqualified for the office. They have demanded he put Senator Clinton on the ticket. They have saidi he has no choice. They have, hence, backed him into a corner where he has no choice but NOT to put Hillary on the ticket. As a core of her hardened supporters have shown they have zero respect for Senator Obama and intend to pressure him into doing whatever they want or they walk, Obama has no choice but to call their bluff. Otherwise he looks weak. That's the irony of politics. So, no, she won't be on the ticket. And I'm afraid Hillary, her campaign staff, her husband and her supporters will have no one to blame for that other than themselves.