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Sunday, May 11, 2008 06:22 PM

Good point Amity, Hillary Clinton definitely has a future in this Party

Hers is, and has been, an historic candidacy. It's important not only because she is the first major female candidate, but also because she's ran with a tenacity we've rarely seen before.

I would never, ever underestimate the role sexism has played in this campaign. It's been atrocious and to pretend otherwise is to be blind. For those who have felt it I'm sincerely sorry and I think the fact that her supporters rightly called attention to it is important not only for her but for society. We must take a step forward. My feelings on racism just about precisely mirror those mentioned above.

Personally, I just honestly believe Senator Clinton is weakening her negotiating position every minute she stays in this thing. Have often been wrong before, could be again. As it stands now, I think you're already seeing a move away from offering her the V.P. slot which would have been a necessity as early as Tuesday. To me this has nothing to do with her being a woman, and everything to do with the fact that, at this point IMHO, all she's doing is driving a wedge into the Democratic Party.

Not saying she's a bad person. Not saying she's not free to stay in this as long as she wants. But at some point what is most important, issues and the future of the Party must take center stage.

Sunday, May 11, 2008 06:49 PM

Wow now we're down to talking to Al-Jazeera and Sheiks about HRC's campaign

Okay going to try to take this one calmly and rationally.

This article clearly has a pro-Clinton bias. Why you felt the need to do this is honestly beyond me.

"For analysis, the anchor in Doha, Qatar, interviewed the network's Washington correspondent, Fady Mansour. "A state for each candidate, is that right?" she asked. Mansour replied that it might seem so from the outside, but in fact winning states was less important than winning delegates, and Barack Obama had bettered his lead over Clinton in that regard.

Al-Jazeera's coverage of the primary focused on the facts and avoided editorializing, and its interpretation of the meaning of last Tuesday's events was squarely within the mainstream of U.S. political reporting."

Okay, addressing Tuesday's results as catastrophic and potentially crippling for Senator Clinton was not editorializing. Why do you feel it was so? Even Joan Walsh admitted it was a very bad, and possibly game-ending, day for Senator Clinton. To state such is not stating an "opinion" or "editorializing." It's stating fact.

Then you went and talked to the Sheikh who gave you tea. Okay great. I like this nugget from him:

"How did Sheikh view Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's remark about the United States being able to "totally obliterate" Iran? "It will not be a picnic for the U.S. to attack Iran. That would push oil to $300 a barrel, with severe consequences. And Iran would find ways of retaliating." Interestingly, he made allowances, observing, "Hillary Clinton is in an election campaign. I would give her the benefit of the doubt."

Yeah I'm not willing to give her or anyone else that benefit of the doubt. I wasn't willing to give it to Geroge W. Bush in the first place. I'm darned sure not willing to give it to her after not only her statements but her actual vote on the Kyl-Lieberman agreement. People act as if she only made statements. No she had a vote on this issue, and when she voted, she clearly voted for paving the way for war. Sorry I'm not goin through that again.

Sunday, May 11, 2008 07:12 PM

Remain respectful of Senator Clinton, but do not fall for this

The Clintons aren't giving this up. They're just not. So remain respectful of Senator Clinton, but remain wary (especially with respect to Florida and Michigan) of any moves they might make.

Don't let anyone fool you. The public's awareness and diligence on this has had an effect. The deal to pay off Senator Clinton's debts fell through, almost exclusively because Obama supporters raised a fuss as they should have on the internet about doing this.

You just have to be wary. Obama offered to compromise with her on Michigan 69-59 to her advantage. Do you know what her counter-proposal was? She gets ALL of the votes in Michigan. Even the uncommitted. She wants the scoredcard to read 128-0 for her in terms of delegates and literally 330,000 to 0 in terms of Michigan's popular vote. That's beyond ridiculous it's insulting and she knows untrue.

Continue to praise her (as she deserves on this front) for running a tough campaign. But don't fall for the "it's all over" strategy. It's over whenever (and again no one's trying to push her) Senator Clinton, like every other candidate on the earth has had to do at some point, finally concedes.

Sunday, May 11, 2008 09:23 PM

Respect everyone's opinion and love the idea of nixing FL and MI superdelegates

That's the perfect solution, Econ and everyone else who suggested it. Let them have their delegates but not supers.

The Hillary supporters have been nothing if not tenacious. Definitely respect your ability as fighters. I'm hoping this thing is drawing to an end but, as you all know, still remain on guard. We also disagree about Senator Obama's chances come fall. Realize they're a chance, but still think you're all underestimating the anti-G.O.P. feeling in this country and the real strides we have made in this country.

Obama 08! Looking forward to ending this thing in the next month or so and moving forward with Obama as our nominee.

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