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Monday, March 3, 2008 10:06 PM

The initial problem . . .

. . . was still the patronizing of the Obama supporters. The tone comes from the fact that for far too long they were derided as spoiled little children who had no idea what they were talking about and could not possibly make a difference. What tone did you think they were going to take? Not justifying this but simply explaining it. In the same way that some Hillary supporters have now taken a more angry and vociferous stance after they felt their candidate was being ignored by the media.

I feel that with the Hillary supporters everyone understands why they have this attitude. With the Obama supporters no real effort is made to find out WHY they act this way. Decrying someone, for months, as a poor, misguided, naive child is hardly an auspicious start. When this is done, day after day, week after week, for months, how do you think this person is going to respond when they're ultimately proven even partially right? (In this case right means, their candidate DID win some primaries, not right in the sense of who is a better candidate.)

Governor Strickland's asinine comments feed further into this.

Monday, March 3, 2008 10:38 PM

Tell all of this

to the room full of people on 60 Minutes that wouldn't vote for Obama because he's Muslim. And because he won't salute the flag. Why? They don't know they just heard that somewhere.

Not discounting the role of the MSM just looking at what real voters in a potentially decisive state are saying on national television. I've found that if people are willing to say something like that on t.v. you can bet your bottom dollar they're saying even worse things at home.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 06:35 PM

Counting votes? You can't do that

Gosh darn those Obama people. They're not only trying to let the all the voters vote, they're even trying to count all the votes. How could they? Don't they know you can't run an election in Ohio without disenfrachising people. Check George W. Bush circa 2004.

Really Obama. It's time to learn not everyone gets to vote.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 07:03 PM
Original article: Huckabee concedes

Notice who's message McCain is taking

"We don't fear history, we make history." Looks like he's learning. You can't run the anit-hope campaign and hope to win. It just ain't gonna work.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 07:08 PM

Or bad for the person whose spouse passed the legislation (NAFA)?

Just saying. It could go either way on which one that would really hurt. Or maybe both.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 08:40 PM
Original article: Clinton wins Ohio

Congratulations to Hillary Clinton on a HUGE win!

Haven't read through all the posts, but definitely, from one Obama supporter, here's a huge congratulations to Hillary on a BIG win! She deserves it. Hillary Clinton definitely pulled out a huge one here, no other way to say it.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 08:44 PM
Original article: Clinton wins Ohio

Wrong comment

Don't know what you're referring to, lj, but if somebody (especially an Obama supporter) said spic, I definitely think that's out of bounds. (Again gotta get back to watching the coverage, haven't read ALL of the posts, just saw yours real quick.) As someone who has posted on racism that's equally as racist if not more so than anything someone could say about Obama. They shouldn't have said that and it's wrong.

Obviously people are free to say whatever they want but if you're looking for an Obama supporter to stand up and say that's wrong I will. That's not cool.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 09:34 PM
Original article: Clinton wins Ohio

Missouri ALSO picks the winner

Missouri has picked the winning candidate in every election since 1944. Obama won Missouri.

I'm not saying Ohio is not important I'm just saying Hillary supporters need to look at ALL of the swing states, not just Ohio. Virginia is going to be a crucial swing state in this election as well. If you can't win that you won't win the election. Likewise Maryland,

6Stringer, I actually think some of your comments have some validity now that I've read through them. Yes political parties have a bad habit of using demographic groups and then tossing them aside.

With regards to Obama being V.P. someone brought up an excellent point. Ask Al Gore about this. The man was Bill Clinton's Vice President for 8 years and had the most important issue in the history of human existence, global warming, and was completely ignored by the Clintons. Now the entire planet faces catastrophic consequences but once again Slick Willie and Hillary skate free. Hillary won't pay attention to her V.P. They never do. Besides we all know Bill's going to be her real V.P.

Great night for Hillary and I've been very complimentary. She deserves it. But Obama will win, or you'll have a split convention. It'll be 1968 all over again. If she somehow manages to win more elected delegates great, congratulations. And he does have to start winning some more big states. (Although again I don't know how IL, Missouri, Virginia, Maryland, Connecticut and Wisconsin don't count, but okay.) But if she has fewer delegates than him and the superdelegates somehow manage to cheat or fix the election for her there are going to be huge problems.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 09:38 PM
Original article: "Yes, she will"

Weird slogan

Also it did bother me a little bit that her supporters basically stole Barack Obama's slogan, especially after the whole stupid plagarism debacle. Thought maybe it was just me. Called my mom, who is an avid Hillary supporter and thinks I'm slightly nuts for supporting Obama, and she even said that part bothered her too.

I wish she could pick her own slogan.

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 09:44 PM
Original article: Clinton wins Ohio

However, In Clinton's Defense

If she can manage to win Pennsylvania by the same margin she won Ohio, maybe pull of an upset in Indiana, and pull Kentucky, plus maybe say a North Carolina I would entertain her giving me a legitimate argument why she SHOULD get the nomination.

At that point I would agree we need to have a real conversation. And possibly discuss a fusion ticket (including potentially one with her at the top.) Not totally ruling out a Clinton/Obama ticket yet.

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