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Coupled with her vote on the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment, and her statement that we should form a protective "nuclear umbrella around our allies in the region", one has to start wondering if this is less about protecting Israel and more about bombing Iran.
She really scares me. I honestly think she's a neo-con in Democratic clothing.
The fact that there are those who are willing to risk another war with Iran in order to simply see a woman elected president is deeply disturbing.
As usual the ones actually responsible for this are the media, which have chosen to completely ignore her statements and focus on the horserace.
Know I sound crazy, but this is how we got tricked into the Iraq War. This time I'm not staying quiet. She needs to be called to task for her increasingly disturbing and saber-rattling comments on Iran. This is part of the new fear doctrine and how we manage to always get into these wars.
When has Hillary Clinton not said exactly what she means? I really wish the press would stop just focusing on politics and start focusing on policy. Coupled with the ABC debate where they just attacked Obama on inane issues for no reason and I feel like we, as the voters, need to ask if we're being hoodwinked again.
If Hillary is elected, and gets us into a war with Iran, everyone's going to claim they were "caught unaware" again and "had no way of knowing." But the truth is people choose not to know. They choose to only pay attention to what they want to pay attention to.
Know this is kind of off-topic, but I'm starting to see a pattern here. She votes for Kyl-Lieberman, paving the way for a war. She says she will nuke Iran if they attack Israel, again paving the way. She waits until the day before the Pennsylvania primary when she assumes no one is paying attention.
She then makes an even broader statement about "forming a protective nuclear umbrella around our allies in the region." This brings up the spectre of going to war with Iran not just over Israel, but over Saudida Arabia and maybe even Iraq itself.
To me things are, scarily and strangely, starting to resemble the march up to the Iraq War again. Just curious what your thoughts were.
It's possible to think that Israel was justified in defending itself in 1948, '67, '73 and still be against their current wars in Lebanon, and some of Ariel Sharon's more blatant attacks as defense minister.
It's possible to be pro-Israel, and not like the settlements.
It's possible to not want to give all of Israel away to the Palestinians and still think that the conditions in the refugee camps desperately need to be improved.
It's possible to respect Israel's security and still think that some of their more, reprehensible policies toward Palestinians are reminiscient of mild concentration camps.
It's possible to want to negotiate with the Palestinians and still think Hamas is a terrorist organization.
It is possible to chart a middle course.
If she can't win by more than this in a state with a 60% female electorate, basically all old people and blue collar workers by more than this she's in trouble.
And she can't come out to talk right now because she's on the phone begging for more money.
Honestly. Even if you Clinton supporters argument was he couldn't win any big states besides Illinois, Virginia, Missouri and Wisconsin I might have some respect for you.
But you don't.
As far as swing states go Missouri, not Ohio remains, the most accurate state when it comes to predicting who the next president will be. They went for Barack.
Would say more but even the Clinton supporters seem to understand this victory, at least, is only neglible.
Say you're for her. Say this helps her. Say anything but this is still helping the Party.
That is simply, clearly, not the truth anymore. And anyone who thinks so is insane.
BTW now that Hillary has the cover of this so-called Pennsylvania game-changing win will Salon finally have the courage to simply come out and endorse her?
I'm guessing no. They're still too scared to actually do that.
They simply won't. They're out their voting for change.
Thinking that they would somehow support a Clinton/Obama ticket, particularly one where the Hillary supporters keep denigrating them and saying "what a great chance for Obama to win" thereby patronizing them even more, is insane.
You are doing yourselves no favors with this. All you're doing is losing the new, young voters.
And any way you cut it you need them to win.
You might think you can do it another way, but ask Gore and Kerry how that worked out. Too many mainstream previous voters are conservative. Sorry but they are.
You need an influx of new voters to win. Obama brings them as a presidential candidate. He won't as a V.P. nominee. They're not going to vote for Clinton at the top of any ticket. Period.
Not going into the Iran thing, but some of you here really need to wake up and examine her record. She's clearly advocating a war with Iran. I had a previous post about this, and others have commented here. You're blind if you don't see it.
She's going to attack Iran. So don't come crying to the rest of us when more of our buddies and young people are dead because you chose to ignore the fact she was greenlighting yet another war just so you could have the first female president.
And definitely don't complain when many of those dead in that war, just as in this one, are young women. Examine Hillary's record. She's clearly a neo-con and trying to start a war with Iran.