Go read the posts on the front-page thread. It's amazing. They actually jumped in there and started defending Penn.

These people are on a sinking ship and actually trying to stop the workers lowering rescue boats. It's amazing.

The final straw is the notion this is suddenly, finally part of some brilliant strategic, Machiavellian move by the Clinton campaign. Face it, folks. Hillary Clinton is just a deeply flawed and bad candidate. No this is not one last brilliant gasp at triangulation, it's just the continual, non-stop f**k-up that the Clinton campaign has become. She doesn't know what she's doing, the staff doesn't know what it's doing, Penn doesn't know what he's doing, and this is just more evidence of it. How much more proof do you need that a person is running an incompetent campaign?

I'm with the other posters. Incompetence and corruption, by any other name, are still incompetence and corruption.

Trying to attack David Axelrod or David Plouffe has nothing to do with the issue at hand. They didn't go to Colombia and try glad-handing the government. They also seem to be worth the money Obama is paying them unlike Clinton's team.

Every time someone in the Hillary campaign makes a mistake her supporters try to defend them. That's a mistake. It just guarantees a continuation of this inept, failing campaign that she is running. It's fine to be a fighter but you've got to be smart, too. Until you learn this you're always going to lose to the Obama team.

This is another example of Baby Boomer "We are the world, it's all about me" dribble. One of the worst written, poorly researched articles I've ever read in my life. It actually managed to make me less likely to vote for her. Where's the Hillary Clinton of 1968? She sounds a lot more likable than the one we've got now.

So this is what we're down to? A 13-year old Hillary and some girl named Betsy Johnson canvassing the South Side of Chicago to see if John F. Kennedy cheated to win the election? Some guy she went out on a date with once from the U of I, talking about how he seems to remember that he "thought she was a Repbulican."

Here's a news flash: Not everything is about 1968. Not everything is about the Baby Boomers. 1945 was a helluva a year too. We ended World War II, in both Germany and Japan victorious, the economy was booming, people were gaining homes at a record rate. So? We didn't vote for Bob Dole just because of it.

No one's trying to take anything away from the Baby Boomers, but their total, utter inability to see that anything could ever possibly be about something other than 1968 is sickening and a large part of the reason she's losing this election. News flash: If the Baby Boomer generation of leadership had done such a great job we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.

But they'll do their usual bait-and-switch: We as a generation were so great, we did everything, we want creidt as a generation. Then you point out George W. Bush was part of their generation and all of a sudden they're not a generation anymore but individuals. It's not fair to judge us by the standards of others. Whatever.

Bill Clinton was born in 1946, ditto George W. Bush. Hillary Clinton was born in 1947.

Barack Obama was born in 1961.

Anyone who can't see a dramatic difference between those dates is blind.

This is such a glaringly obvious fact to everyone but the Boomers that finally even demographers came around to agreeing with us. Particularly with regard to the U.S. and the disproportionate amount of power the actual Boomers (1946-1954) have enjoyed.

Barack Obama is technically part of the Generation Jones, as defined by Wikipedia and demographers:

"Generation Jones is a term that describes people born between the years 1954 and 1964. U.S. social commentator Jonathan Pontell identified the existence of this generation and coined the term “Generation Jones” for it.[1][2][3][4] Generation Jones has been referred to as a heretofore lost generation between the Baby boomers and Generation X, since prior to the popularization of Pontell’s theory, its members were included with either the Boomers or Xers."

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones

So, no, he's not a Boomer. It'll be a couple of years before you guys finally come around to accepting this one, but sorry it's the way demography is headed.