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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 09:45 AM

Khamenei's appearance yesterday was also on TV.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/world/middleeast/04iran.html

“The Islamic republic of Iran decided from the beginning not to prejudge and instead to consider the slogan of ‘change,’ ” said Ayatollah Khamenei in remarks to a group of students and teachers that were broadcast by the state-run Press TV. “But what we have witnessed in practice during this period of time has been in contradiction with the remarks that have been made.”
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 01:02 PM

And why did they abduct Abu Omar from Milan on Feb. 17, 2003, right before the

Iraq invasion, to be tortured in Egypt?

It was over the opposition of CIA station chief Lady (who is now one of the convicted fall guys), and approved by Tenet and Condi Rice. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/4/12214/1572

And guess what? Lady had drawn people's attention to an alleged connection between Abu Omar, Al Qaeda, and Iraq. http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,657431,00.html

It was Lady who called Megale's attention to Abu Omar, to the Egyptian's close contacts to the terror organization al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and to militant groups in northern Iraq. From then on, Italian investigators had kept Abu Omar under surveillance, wire tapping his phone and monitoring his laptop. The results confirmed their worst fears.

Not hard to guess why people in Washington were so anxious to have Abu Omar kidnapped and tortured, even at the cost of blowing an investigation:

"Another two, perhaps three months, and we would have had him," [Milan police inspector] Megale says today. "The abduction destroyed all our investigative work. He could have been legally convicted here."
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 01:06 PM

Can Ledeen not be involved in a matter (like the abduction of Abu Omar)

where SISMI, Pollari, and the CIA's stations in Italy were?

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 01:52 PM

Comrade Stalin would never allow the arrest of people he knows are innocent.

Comrade Stalin works in his office until late at night for the welfare of his fellow citizens.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 02:20 PM

There IS an extradition treaty between Italy and the U.S.

http://www.asil.org/insights050707.cfm#_edn6

Thursday, November 5, 2009 12:02 PM

Abu Omar was kidnapped Feb. 17, 2003, right before we invaded Iraq.

I am reasonably sure he was sent to be tortured in Egypt (over the objections of CIA Milan station chief Lady, who knew the Italians with whom he was working would be unhappy, with the authorization of Tenet and Condi Rice) at this time to provide an additional (false) confession that would serve to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Lady knew of a connection between Abu Omar, Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyyah (Zawahiri's terrorist organization that was subsumed into Al Qaeda,) and terrorists in northern Iraq. Who cares that those terrorists were not in Saddam-controlled territory?

It was Lady who called Megale's attention to Abu Omar, to the Egyptian's close contacts to the terror organization al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and to militant groups in northern Iraq. From then on, Italian investigators had kept Abu Omar under surveillance, wire tapping his phone and monitoring his laptop. The results confirmed their worst fears.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,657431,00.html

Thursday, November 5, 2009 12:05 PM

It is not legal to send enemies of this country to be tortured anywhere.

I was taught that in Geneva Convention training when I was on active duty in the U.S. military. And I am unaware of anyone who disputes it.

Friday, November 6, 2009 01:58 PM

Lone gunman in Texas

Where have we heard that before?

Is it believable that a lone gunman could have fired off this many rounds in a roomful of trained combat soldiers without being overpowered?

Friday, November 6, 2009 03:59 PM

About MKUltra, paranoia can be chemically induced.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7057171

J Nerv Ment Dis. 1982 Feb;170(2):117-9.

Psychosis associated with clonazepam therapy for blepharospasm.

White MC, Silverman JJ, Harbison JW.

A 73-year-old woman with no previous psychiatric history received clonazepam maintenance therapy for essential blepharospasm. Visual, auditory, and tactile hallucinations as well as paranoid delusions were documented. Dose reduction resulted in complete disappearance of the hallucinations and reduction of paranoia to an acceptable level, with no exacerbation during the subsequent 12 months. To our knowledge, this is the first well documented report of psychosis induced by clonazepam. Psychosis was probably related to clonazepam-induced increased central nervous system serotonin and possible predisposition to organic brain syndrome by undocumented causes. Dose reduction is suggested as an alternative to discontinuing the drug when hallucinations or paranoia arise during clonazepam therapy, if no other satisfactory treatment is available and if adequate patient monitoring and protection exist.

PMID: 7057171 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

And all we hear about Maj. Hasan makes it sound like a classic case of paranoia.

Friday, November 6, 2009 04:05 PM

An awful lot of info hit the media mighty fast about Lee Harvey Oswald.

Same goes for the 9/11 hijackers.

Friday, November 6, 2009 04:10 PM

I think it would have been a violation of privacy rules to release this info before Hasan died.

Stories of his inappropriate and strange behavior at Walter Reed are circulating fast and furiously. In response, he was given an unsatisfactory performance rating and transferred for deployment to a war zone.

And, if it was released in the mistaken belief that he was dead, they released it mighty fast in that narrow time window.

OTOH, this may explain why they reported that he was dead.

Friday, November 6, 2009 04:21 PM

Military doctors are not bought and paid for killers,

whatever may be true of the rest of the military (And, as a veteran who put in enough time in the reserves in signals intelligence to have a military pension, I assure you that neither are people in signals intelligence. I was taught -- rather unsuccessfully -- how to fire a rifle, but I wouldn't say I was ever taught to kill. And much the same could be said of all manner of military specialties.)

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