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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:22 PM

@ msgkings

re: The fact that we are more globalized now is a good thing not a bad one, the whole world is a big machine, sputtering now, but ultimately will be cylcing back up again.

Turbulence and Finance: Taleb and Mandelbrot

PAUL SOLMAN: In the [Black Swan], Taleb wrote, “The increased concentration among banks seems to have the effect of making financial crises less likely. But when they happen, they are more global in scale and hit us very hard. True, we now have fewer failures, but, when they occur, I shiver at the thought.”

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: The banking system, the way we have it, is a monstrous giant built on feet of clay. And if that topples, we’re gone.

Never in the history of the world have we faced so much complexity combined with so much incompetence and understanding of its properties.

PAUL SOLMAN: But there’s been complexity before. There has been overextension of credit before. We’ve had crashes in American history many times before. We’re a resilient system. Won’t we pull out of it?

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Let me tell you why it’s not like before. Look at what’s happening. The world is getting so fragile that a small shortage of oil — small — can lead to the price going from $25 to $150.

PAUL SOLMAN: A barrel.

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: A barrel. A small excess demand in an agricultural product can lead to an explosion in price.

We live in a world that is way too complicated for our traditional economic structure. It’s not as resilient as it used to be. We don’t have slack. It’s over-optimized.

PAUL SOLMAN: What do you mean by “over-optimized”?

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Let me tell you what is happening in the ecology of the banking system. They’re swelling to large banks, OK, because it’s vastly more optimal to have one large bank than 10 small banks. It’s more efficient.

PAUL SOLMAN: Well, we’ve certainly seen the consolidation of the industry.

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Exactly. And that consolidation is what’s putting us at risk, because we are — when one bank, large bank makes a mistake, OK, it’s 10 times worse than a small bank making a mistake.

PAUL SOLMAN: So, getting back to your fundamental work and insight, this is a system that can become turbulent or is inherently turbulent, that doesn’t have enough of a buffer, and that’s the danger?

BENOIT MANDELBROT: That is not well-understood. In fact, that is misunderstood for which tools have been developed which assume that changes are always very small.

If one of them comes, nothing bad happens. If several of them come together, very bad things have happened. And the theory does not take account of that, and the theory doesn’t take account of very large and sudden changes in anything.

The theory thinks that things move slowly, gradually, and can be corrected as they change, whereas, in fact, they may change extremely brutally.

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Now you understand why I’m worried. I hope I’m wrong. I wake up every morning — actually, I don’t wake up every morning now. I start to wake up at night the last couple of weeks hoping that I’m wrong, begging to be wrong.

I think that we may be experiencing something that is vastly worse than we think it is.

PAUL SOLMAN: And we think it’s pretty bad.

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: It’s worse. Of all the books you read on globalization, they talk about efficiency, all that stuff. They don’t get the point. The network effect of that globalization, OK, means that a shock in the system can have much larger consequences.

http://rs.resalliance.org/2008/10/24/turbulence-and-finance-taleb-and-mandelbrot/

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:31 PM

Walter Map

re: Make a wish.

If I were delusional, I'd wish that this knucklehead was right.

But, since I'm not, I'm gonna go down to Waikiki Beach for a swim and try to forget the unfolding disaster.

Hey, the world may be about as fucked as it can possibly be, but I'll be experiencing it all with one helluva great tan.

:)

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:00 PM

Gone Baby Gone

On September 26, before the TARP bill passed, I wrote the following on The New York Times:

This is the mother of all heists. It is a total ripoff of taxpayer money that will do absolutely nothing to prevent the incipient depression; indeed, the inflation* that will be ignited by the Treasury borrowing yet another trillion dollars (for starters) will serve only to speed up the collapse. It will succeed only in bailing out a bunch of well-connected criminals, including many of Paulson's old cronies, along with big-time contributors to elected officials on both sides of the aisle.
http://tinyurl.com/4w76b3
*Federal Reserve sets Stage for Weimar-style Hyperinflation
By F. William Engdahl
The Federal Reserve has bluntly refused a request by a major US financial news service to disclose the recipients of more than $2 trillion of emergency loans from US taxpayers and to reveal the assets the central bank is accepting as collateral. Their lawyers resorted to the bizarre argument that they did so to protect 'trade secrets.' Is the secret that the US financial system is de facto bankrupt? The latest Fed move is further indication of the degree of panic and lack of clear strategy within the highest ranks of the US financial institutions. Unprecedented Federal Reserve expansion of the Monetary Base in recent weeks sets the stage for a future Weimar-style hyperinflation perhaps before 2010.
http://tinyurl.com/5dkac3

I'm not sure which is scarier: The fact that laymen like myself could see so clearly that this was a ripoff and doomed to failure, or that the supposed financial wizards who engineered this are in control of our government.

Either these people are simply criminals, or they are blatantly incompetent.

Take your pick. Either choice is equally unpleasant in its implications for our continued survival.

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