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I don't have access to the exchange of emails here at work, but I conversed with Glenn a year or so ago over some fairly benign action the Israelis took, about which he wrote scathingly. After he was completely unable to back up his accusations, he wrote a (rather grudging) public retraction, in which he claimed he had never been telling the Israelis what to do, only that the US should think twice about whether to support them.
"I'm having a little trouble believing your skills were sufficient to do that. Why don't you google that retraction and show everybody what it said?"
Thanks for the backhanded compliment, I have a high appreciation for your skills as well. However, it's not that hard to prove Glenn wrong when he's wrong - and when he bloviates about Israel, he usually is.
I had a quick look around to find the citation before I posted. I'm at work and can't spend the day trying to find it. I'll look this evening and post it.
... and just to highlight one more dimension to the hypocrisy here, where were you all when it was the Croats or the Tutsis or the Liberians or the Somalis or the residents of Darfur? Not particularly interested in them? Only when it's Jews "oppressing" your beloved Palestinian terrorists, are you eager to pick up the flag?
"Based on your other arguments, I'm not going to be holding my breath."
So you say I don't have sufficient skills to debate Glenn, and you're insinuating that I'm a liar, too. A very happy new year to you, my friend.
>>> Zenwick, your own posts damn you...
Not my doing, sorry.
This however:
"I don't know why so many on our side become so pathologically rage filled...."
omooex, one of us must be confused. I can't imagine that I ever wrote that. Where did you find it? I think you must be responding to someone else?
"@zenwick
P.N.A. officials are elected officials, elected through participatory elections."
Klytus, you must be confused also. I never wrote anything to suggest the Palestinian elections were not democratic. On the other hand, it might be difficult for Fatah to run a slate of candidates in future elections in Gaza, sine they have all been ejected from upper-story windows by the Hamasniks.
"zenwick, sorry,
I get you mixed up with the other idiot, Winsmith."
I'm sorry, too, omooex. I mistakenly thought I was arguing with an adult.
I think this might be a very good topic for you to cover with your shrink.
Give us some indication that you have any idea of the history of the Middle East over the past hundred years or so. As far as I have read, and I think I have read pretty much everything youi have written on Israel, "apartheid" and "US aid dollars" and "neocons" pretty much covers it.
"Glen, the answer to your question is very simple: Jewish money has purchased almost every U.S. politician, from every party, with the obvious exception of Ron Paul."
Ah, we're back to mainstream antisemitism here: the Jews control everything. By the way, you left out how the Jews control Egypt, who are also in favor of getting rid of Hamas. Also Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Germany, France. The Jews control them all.
"you had to wait nearly the entire day before even one person posted an anti-Jewish remark"
And I was holding my breath, too.
The difference between you and the guy who posted the remark you acknowledge as anti-semitic is...
... well, come to think of it, there is no difference.
"Zenwick
Except that I am a semite, you idiot."
And you are obviously not worth my consideration to debate with you. Good day.
I was finally able to dig out the knee-jerk anti-Israel Glenn posting from some time ago:
Actually, it had nothing to do with anything the Israelis had done, but merely a Krauthammer suggestion that Israel should cut off traffic at the checkpoints in response to rocket fire. Glenn wrote:
"Excellent idea -- let's make sure that the Palestinians, like the U.S. did with millions of Iraqis, are forced to live with no gasoline and electricity."
... and all because of a few rockets killing a few Israelis. When I emailed him to suggest non-violent action such as an embargo might be perfectly appropriate, he launched into a further private diatribe against Israel, then finally clarified in his public update:
"This is not an argument about what Israel should or should not do about Gaza."
I continue to maintain that Glenn's hatred of anything and everything Israeli is pathological.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/06/22/water_electric/
"He described that there was now a process for bringing Palestinian patients to Israeli hospitals. When I asked for details (I know something about EMS in this country), I found out in discussion that it works like this: The ambulances stay on their own sides of the checkpoint."
So obviously you are unaware that, prior to the adoption of this policy, ambulances were a popular method of smuggling suicide vests, etc., into Israel from Gaza and the West Bank? The checkpoints exist to protect Israelis from suicide bombings and other terror attacks, and they seem to be doing a reasonably good job. The Israelis unfortunately have a lot of experience in protecting themselves from terrorists, and you unfortunately seem to have no clue.
By the way, regarding the use of ambulances in transporting suicide vests, that would have been difficult to accomplish without the complicity of the Red Crescent, which is an affiliate of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Meanwhile, the ICRC has never allowed the Israeli equivalent, the Magen David Adom, to join. So even the Red Cross has been in favor of blowing up Israelis and against saving them. You're in good company.