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Friday, September 25, 2009 07:59 PM

JNag

And your fashionably pessimistic know-it-all pseudo ennui, and blowing things up every day becasue not the way YOU would have it is VIOLENCE,

-- JNagarya

lol... you are beyond the pale. I used the term "blow up" because that is the term Tim used. I was responding to him using his words. Jesus but you are an absurd human being. My guess is that you are omooex actually. Now, like I said. Time to edit the killfile... oh and no, so that your fevered brain doesn't run with that also, that doesn't mean I am going to come and kill you...boo.

Friday, September 25, 2009 07:51 PM

JNag

You propose nothing short of or less than "revolution". As revolution is the "overturning of gov't," -- JNagarya

Right. Because that is what I meant when I said it "doesn't need to be replaced" and that it "needs to be changed." That it needs to be, you know, altered. Yeah that is what I was proposing, the violent overthrow of the government.

You are an unbelievable, lying cunt and you will now go in the Greasemonkey killfile.

Friday, September 25, 2009 07:43 PM

JNag

This country is planted thick with laws . . . . And if you cut them down . . . do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then?

-- JNagarya

And what of the idea of the two-tiered system of justice that Glenn keeps writing about? What of the fact that the only ones actually subject to the laws in any real way are the little people?

Listen up you authoritarian douchebag - We are a nation of men rather than laws at this point. And even knowing this, I am not now, have not today nor would I ever prefer a bloody revolution. You aren't listening and there is a reason for that. What I haven't figured out yet is if it is because you are simply another scared idiot or you have an agenda. I honestly hope it is the former.

Friday, September 25, 2009 07:24 PM

JNag

As "Mona" pointed out, Martin Luterh King, Jr. worked WITHIN the system -- which you'd know if you knew what you were talking about. -- JNagarya

Right, it was all that working within the system. All that working with the gracious federal politicians/government which brought about change.

If only he had had a blog and strove to elect better politicians. Just think about it! He wouldn't have even needed to organize any of that silly civil disobedience.

Friday, September 25, 2009 07:07 PM

rrheard

Jnagarya wants to tell you are stupid for not being as cowed and afraid as he is.

Friday, September 25, 2009 06:58 PM

Timmeh

Sure, I'm a jerk.

-- Timothy3

I didn't say you were a jerk. I said that your very "adult" plan to bring about change is going to do nothing of the kind and that you have been told and shown, repeatedly, that it will not. So, look at it from my perspective for a moment. Ask yourself this question:

"If electing better politicians will not change things because it will not make the system as a whole more accountable and I continue to do the 'adult' thing and stay the course even so. Then would it be fair for someone like adnoto, who had tried to get folks to use past proven direct action/civil disobedience in order to bring about change, to hold me at least partially responsible for the lack of change?"

How about this... what if I kept saying that the War in Iraq was a good, righteous thing and I kept advocating more troops and the majority of the "adults" agreed and that, in turn, resulted in all of us (not to mention the Iraqi people) suffering longer than need be. What would be your response? If you disagreed... if you knew, because it was plain as day, that more troops and more killing wasn't the answer, in the end, wouldn't you hold me at least partially responsible/culpable for the results of what I had agreed to or advocated for?

That might not be the best example but I think you get my point.

Friday, September 25, 2009 05:46 PM

GG

Stop being so vague. What's the "conflict of interest"? What I am not allowed to say which, if I did say, I'd be out of a job?

I'm not accountable to anyone except my readers.

-- GlennGreenwald

He can answer for himself but I took him to mean you were naturally self-censoring in a way. Because of where you are now. Because of the position you are in. Your place in the world... That you are now more like "them" than "us." That you have a vested interest in only working on the margins, etc.

Friday, September 25, 2009 05:41 PM

Timmeh

But, really, I'm not "fucking with our life, liberty and persuit of happiness." That's being done by those people in Congress who aren't, currently, accountable.

-- Timothy3

lol... you aren't huh? You want to change the faces of the unaccountable - that is your grand plan - and you have the stones to say you aren't culpable?

Jeebus Tim. Seriously....

Friday, September 25, 2009 05:24 PM

Scuzza

(On that note I find it strange that some people decry the very thought of future bloody revolution but seem quite sanguine about actual bloody tyranny in the present. Given that revolutions are brief by their very nature, while tyrannies can endure for centuries, I'd have thought this a poor trade. People are strange.)

-- ScuzzaMan

It is a poor trade and people are basically, when it comes down to it, afraid. I'm afraid too. Just not enough to make me want to live with it.

Friday, September 25, 2009 05:19 PM

heru

I will say that adnoto thinks I am going for a bait and switch since he knows I think total voluntary cooperation is the best for humanity.

-- heru-ur

Weren't you?:) Are you sure??...lol Ok then, I apologize.

Either way, I meant no offense. I was just having some fun.

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