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Saturday, June 2, 2007 03:38 AM
Original article: Al-Qaida does it, too

Goff

I was reading Stan Goff five or six years ago, he is one dogface for whom I've come to have a great deal of respect.

Yes, I have read some of his work. About a year ago, when the "will BushCo nuke Iran?" scuttlebutt began, he wrote a hammer that was posted on the Huffington Post. He basically said that if Bush nuked Iran he was personally going to start breaking shit -- and he didn't mean the wife's china either.

I found the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stan-goff/get-real-on-iran_b_20106.html

I agree with much of what he said in that post with the exception of his belief that the American people would actually rise up and do something if that happened. I have zero faith that would be the case. There have been plenty of perfectly good reasons to break some shit over the course of the last few years and yet nothing has been important enough. Not lying us into this joke of an occupation, not the shredding of the constitution, not domestic spying, not torture, not general lawlessness and gross thievery... nothing.

From what I have seen Americans simply don't care (least ways not enough) and that would be especially true of nuking some "damnable Muslims." How does that effect Americans? Will their American Idol feed be cut off? No? Then what is all the hubbub about? If tens of thousands of dead Iraqis in the name of imperialism and war profiteering don't matter, then "strategic strikes" on "military targets" in Iran that kill thousands more won't matter either. And this isn't even mentioning our own bullet catchers that are out there taking it in the ass for a lie. That hard charger I linked to earlier was "in the shit." He did his time loyally and with honor and now, because he is speaking the truth, they want to try and ruin him. And so it goes...

Anyway... I don't comment much but when I saw your reference to "500 meters and iron sights" I wanted to give a shout out. The old iron sights work just fine and I am fairly proficient with them myself but, if it comes to that, I will follow White Feather's lead and go with a scope. Let them feel it before they hear it.

Semper Fi

Oh and as for LWM's comments.... you go ahead and cling to "my country 'tis of thee" BS if you want to but don't try and tell someone who knows a thing or two that this is a pretty great country led by a few bad apples. You have to be kidding with that.

Monday, June 4, 2007 11:29 AM

No, No, No...

What I would like to point out though, is that there are a lot of well meaning decent people who nevertheless self-identify as Conservatives and they're in dire need of some leadership at this point. -- Paul Dirks

If they still identify themselves as conservatives then they are neither well meaning nor decent.

They voted for BushCo and most of them will vote for the next con candidate. This is a major problem we all have. Every time these imbeciles want to dissociate and still hold on to their obviously failed ideology we have people that let them do just that. They don't need leadership, they need to change their ideology/philosophy. Period. Conservatism, of any stripe is an inherently bad thing. Those conservatives that claim they are something other than "neo-cons" don't understand that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because conservatism is a failure across the board and even those conservatives that Glenn mentions as being ones who called BushCo out early on would hold to the "true conservatism can not fail, people fail conservatism" meme. Thus, in the end, they will continue to vote for authoritarians, racists, thieves and warmongering thugs. They can't possibly do anything else. It is who they are.

All of this is to say that if you let them get away with this shit yet again, you will end up with another Reagan or Bush in 8 to 20 years. They don't need a leader. They need to be marginalized... that is, if we ever want to have a truly honest, peaceful and prosperous United States of America.

Monday, June 4, 2007 11:40 AM

What?

As must distaste as I've always had to real conservatives, these new guys actually make me miss them.

-- epeoples

Monday, June 4, 2007 11:44 AM

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As must distaste as I've always had to real conservatives, these new guys actually make me miss them.

-- epeoples

Monday, June 4, 2007 11:49 AM

A heads up for Glenn/Salon

Unless my posts are being moderated, text, other than the the blockquotes, is disappearing into the ether. Very strange.

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Monday, June 4, 2007 12:08 PM

I hope this response shows up...

Please excuse my sloppy typing and careless proofreading. I meant to say, "As MUCH distaste as I have FOR real conservatives, these new guys [Bushiite "conservatives"] actually make me miss them." That is to say, they make Nixon look all fuzzy and cuddly by comparison.

-- epeoples

Yes. I understood you. My response didn't show up either time. Hopefully this one will.

Short version of what I said:

You and Glenn make their case for them and thus potentially enable another, future round of horror. Conservatives are what they do. They fund, support and vote for these people. They will do it again and you help them in this effort. I really don't understand how we can continue be this dense and survive.

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