Your point is fair, adnoto, but it's wrong nevertheless

My point is wrong is it? I am not sure how you even have the balls... well, actually, the fact is you obviously don't have any balls. You are ducking and everyone here knows it. All your BS rhetoric will never change the fact that I never said word one about, nor likened our situation to the official Soviet propaganda machine. Go back and read my initial post from that day. READ IT. You were the one to do the comparing and contrasting as if it made a damn bit of difference. You still are. It still doesn't matter and yet you continue to beat a meaningless comparison to death all in the hopes of hiding your impotence and what? Educating me? Educating the dirty masses? Well, I can't speak for the rest of the dirty masses but I don't need your education at the expense of sanity and action.

Either it is propaganda or it isn't. Even your hero Glenn Greenwald seems to have come around to the notion that "it" is propaganda. What the hell is your problem WT? Seriously? Is it just abject fear? There is a time, a place and an audience for lectures but you are in the wrong fucking time, in the wrong fucking place and lecturing the wrong fucking person. Who the hell do you think you are?

This isn't the 90's when it might have been ok to wallow in blissful catatonia under the rule of "the best republican since Lincoln." This shit we are going through is no joke and it will only continue to get worse if we do nothing. Obamania be damned. It can't be "talked away." It can't be made better solely through intellectual blathering. People like you do potentially more harm than the evil we face simply because you are content to sit on your ass and council others to do likewise. You and your ilk are immobilizers. Inhibitors to real, permanent, lasting change. Now you tell us there really doesn't actually need to be a reckoning, that no one really need be held accountable in any real way for the pervasive illegality we have seen. Exposure will be enough. Exposure and a remembrance will save us in the future. What utter horse-shit. That is nothing more than up front excuse making. An up front excuse to protect corporatist Obama and mainstream faux populists like yourself from ridicule when nothing changes. Well I am not buying it and, in the end, I am not going to live with it.

Thank heavens, Glenn has taken a breather

This seems like the first day for a week or so I haven't found a new article by him up here, and a hundred or so comments already posted underneath it. I can't keep up with his prodigious output. -- Rowan Berkeley

Maybe he flew in to get married?

My guess is that he is writing the end all be all blog post that will finally bring down the BushCo-military-industrial-corporate-joe klein- congressional-media-complex of evildoers! Just you wait...one of these blog essays and the resulting comments (especially LWM's cut and paste jobs and Timberman's "back when I was a revolutionary!" monologues) are sure to send a literary wave of destruction that will reverberate throughout the land, decimating all evildoers in their path. Yay!

While I agree with J's politics on many (not all) issues, he's the closest thing I've seen to a LWA in some time, with more than a few of the traits. He's not adnoto, but just as irksome.

-- L.W.M.

Some of my friends are over at the moment and they got a BIG kick out of this. Authoritarian? Me? That takes the cake. The idea is as laughable as you are.

Apparently neither you or your friends can read.

I said J "was no adnoto but just as irksome".

One of "adnoto's" friends here.

I find all of this fascinating and your insult rather funny. I have taken the time to read some of your past posts to this forum and I must say you are quite the character. You may not have meant to label him an authoritarian but that is not plain from your writing. It appears as though you are saying this "J" person is an authoritarian who is "not as bad as adnoto" but, an authoritarian just the same. This would imply that you consider adnoto to be an authoritarian more so than even "J". It seems the commenter "Mona" agrees with this assessment as s/he apparently interpreted your words in the way that we did. So, perhaps it isn't the case that we "can't read" so much as it is the case that you can't write very well:) Do you see it now?

"adnoto" would like me to add a hearty "f*** you" but I won't do that. He also says being called an anarchist isn't nearly as bad being called an authoritarian but that, for the record, he isn't an anarchist either. Knowing him, I would have to agree.

Well, this has been fun. Take care.

TG