Re: "Interesting that the One-Der's supporters think McCain would cheat - in my Ohio city vans full of ACORN voters are going from precinct to precinct with nametags of long dead individuals pinned on homeless new voters. "

Can you provide documentation (first person, verified accounts, pictures, ...) that prove this is happening? Other than FoxNews, Rush Limbaugh or NewsMax items that is.

How about John McCain declares that "ACORN has made it impossible for a fair election to take place, so I am asking President bush to stemporarily supend the election until we can sortthis out"?

When the Bush Administration has been allowed by a somnamulent media to lie repeatedly for seven and a half years, who can be surprised when Republicans assume that no statement they make will ever be checked against reality?

Re: "After a one or two more weeks of this, the inevitability of defeat will have sunk in, and McCain the man will realize that the only thing he can now salvage is his self-respect and end-of-career reputation."

No. He won't.

John McCain wants to be President in the worst way. And that is exactly how he intends to get it.

As he rides off into the sunset on January 20, the list of incompetence and failures he has bequethed on the United States and the world will last long beyond his lifetime.

But Conservatives will still want to add his visage as the fifth face on Mt.Rushmore.

Don't we all wish that the Republican Party got their way and our Social Security funds had been in there too?

And, of course, FoxNews will play the ad seven ties an hour, through election day: just for the news discussion value, of course.

Re: "Blame whoever you want for whatever you want, but the bottom line is that someone to stabilize the financial sector has to be done or a lot of ordinary Americans are going to be hurt."

But isn't the fact that Republicans had their feelings hurt when Nancy Pelosi said mean things about them much more important than your future?

Why do you Hate America?

It depends on how long it takes Republicans to get over their hurt feelings because someone said mean things to them.

That is certainly justification for holding an entire country hostage.

Sarah Palin will not leave the ticket. James Dobson would not stand for it. Her selection was based solely on obtaining the Dobson blessing for John McCain, and that promise cannot be broken, no matter what.

Sarah Palin is there for one reason only, to provide aid and succor to James Dobson and his flock. Just as Dan Quayle did for Jerry Falwell twenty years ago.

Nothing more.

I thought John McCaine rode in and "saved the day"? He endorsed this bill, so while the Democrats delivered all the votes they promised, why didn't John McCain deliver the votes that the Republicans promised?

The bill won't pass as long as our Toddler Republicans stay away because someone said something mean about them.

Re: "And funnier yet, that old queen Barney Frank told the GOP to suck it up and man up. That if her speech caused them to avoid doing what was best for the country they are a bunch of pansies and shouldn't be in the House to begin with."

Senator Frank is one of the toughest, best (in the most positive sense of the word) politicians in Washington. I've watched him go toe-to-toe with the right-wing jerks (Bill O'Rielly) on FoxNews and hand their heads to them.

Now there's someone I would love to see as President. He's the real "straight talker" who could bash some heads and get things done.

I'd vote for him for President in a heartbeat.

And how did Republican President George W. Bush do in delivering his party's votes?

Or does he get aother Free Pass?

What about john McCain, grandstanding into town and politicizing everything?

Or does he get his usual media Free Pass?

Republicans, wanting to give a Capital Gains tax cut to their contributors (and including that provision would have guaranteed passage) killed this deal. As usual Conservatives such as Scarborough tried to shift accountability to the Democrats.

Enough of this crap.

John McCain and his Republican fanatics (with whom he has aligned his campaign, 100%) killed this deal. Whatever happens next is their fault.

Re: "But c'mon: 60 percent? So, while Clyburn is up there now praising that 60 percent and decrying the GOP's 67 percent nay votes, there's still no explanation for why the Dem leaders could not keep their coalition together."

I've had about enough of this crap!

Every time Republicans do something colossally stupid or ideological (to the extent there is a difference), the alibi that we always hear is that "The Democrats didn’t stop us, so it's all their fault".

That is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

Democrats got enough votes to pass it. The Republican President of the US backed it. Republicans in the House killed it because they could not get a Capital Gains tax cut included in it. They wanted to turn the bill into a Christmas tree for their contributors, and held America (and the world) hostage to that.

Whatever happens next is 100% the Republican's fault. No more excuses that "no one stopped me". If I see someone rob a convenience store and does not jump in their way, well... shame on me. But that does not make the criminal innocent of robbery. That is alibi that Republicans toss out every time they pull another stunt.

Enough.

Republicans are to blame.

Completely.

Let's hold them accountable, for a change.