"affluent, educated, Ivy League sense of self-righteousness and entitlement that my Irish Catholic working-class side occasionally chafes at. So does Michelle Obama. So does Jeffrey Toobin. So do some of our Obama supporting readers. So sue me."

"the candidate of coastal liberals, lefty intellectuals, Ivy League check-writers and African-Americans,"

"doesn't ever again seem to disrespect the disadvantaged working class while he's flattering the overadvantaged class that attends his fundraisers, or his Harvard and Columbia class reunions. (In my experience, the black and white overclass has far more in common with one another than they'll ever publicly acknowledge.) "

Your pose of Irish working-class-ness is about as convincing as Peggy Noonan's. Get real, lady.

I see you have a teenage daughter - any comments on her college plans? I'm sure you don't want her to be "overadvantaged," now.

Let's get this straight: She just called up some of her buddies and got quotes? And that was her article?

It's lucky for her that her point was so banal (in a hotly contested campaign between demographically different candidates, supports of Candidate 1 will refer to Candidate 2 in terms that disparage C2's demographic) that it didn't need even minimally competent reporting to be sustained.

I don't read Vanity Fair.

This is the Michael Wolff who chronicled his failed entrepreneurial venture (paper guides to the Internet) in the now-available-for-$0.01 period piece Burn Rate,not the Tourette's-afflicted musician who's married to the actor who played the single friend in thirtysomething, right?

Walsh on Clinton is like Kristol on Iraq.

You just blew it on a massive scale. Now it's time to sit down and shut up. No rational person cares what you have to say, loser.

I was going to argue again that Joan's "working-class Irish" act is the phoniest one you'll see this side of Crawford, but I started doing some research:

It turns out that when Joan finishes a long day greenlighting Rebecca Traister essays on critical issues (why semi-attractive ex-Penn feminists have so much trouble getting dates with hot rich guys; how an Obama supporter used an unmistakably mean tone of voice with a Rebecca's friend Amy, a *very successful* freelance writer), she actually holds down not one but two extra jobs!

The crowd at Seamus O'Brien's Irish Tavern is always delighted when Joan shows up for her shift - a lifetime of grinding oppression hasn't dulled the wit and wisdom of this indomitable woman of the people! From the first round of Guinness she serves up to the hurling team to the last bardic hymn she shares with the Gaelic-only crowd at closing, everybody (except lazy elitists) looks forward to spending time with Barmaid Joan.

But you know what they say - a man works from sun to sun, but a woman's work is never done. After closing, it's time for Joan to show up at Hook & Ladder Company 12 for her graveyard shift with the S.F.F.D. The old boys resisted this barrier-breaker until she saved 12 nuns from a convent fire that resulted from an Ivy League a cappella prank gone wrong (note to Rebecca: no one from "Ivy League" Penn was involved). When the news crews descended on Joan at home where she was getting kid number eight (Bridget) ready for First Communion, her rich brogue filled the air: "I had to save those nuns. I just thought about what me ma would do . Her or the Virgin Mary."

Joan, I am *so* sorry I misjudged you.

"Why do I get the feeling that you are a new incarnation of myiq2xu?"

Actually, I'm an incarnation of glenniq10xrebecca. Thanks for noticing, though.

Sure, you can ask and I'll answer, if I can ask you one question that you agree to answer.

For example: "In light of your cherished Irish working-class heritage, what measures have you taken to ensure that your daughter does not ever associate herself with a bastion of excessive privilege such as Harvard or Columbia (or even the considerably less exalted Penn) from which evil elitist Obama supporters issue, and how successful have these measures been?"

OK, you're not going for the exchange. Your choice.

Let's just leave it at this: I expect phony attacks on well-educated people from Republican jacktards, not from Salon.

Your unqualified comment about "the overprivileged people" Obama sees at his "Harvard and Columbia reunions" was offensive and - coming from you in particular - ridiculous.

Let me try spelling this out for you. I didn't intend to suggest that you went to any particular school. Here are three reasons your comments were offensive and/or ridiculous, Badger though you be:

a. It is overwhelmingly likely that many readers, staffers, and backers of Salon identify with Harvard, Columbia, and similar schools and don't appreciate being called members of an "overprivileged class." It is offensive and ridiculous for you to insult a key segment of your own community in this way.

b. I suspect you'd be thrilled if your daughter went to such a school. If so, it's ridiculous for you to insult H/C/equivalent alumni as a group.

c. As has been pointed out endlessly, opinion leaders like you are members of the elite, so their elite-bashing is ridiculous. This applies to the broader campaign of which the "overprivileged class" comment was a part.

This handle was created specifically to respond to your offensive comments. It does not necessarily reflect the author's specific characteristics or how the author presents him/herself outside the context of an anonymous online forum where he/she has just been insulted. One of the characteristics of a forum such as this is that one can manipulate one's self-presentation to make a point.

I believe the relevant points have been made and this matter can now be closed.

A Ph.D. is an advanced degree.

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