For 17 million (or whatever) votes, this lady has had a HELL of a time paying down her debt. What gives?

One theory: Many Dems who voted for her don't want to throw good money away on a losing proposition. I mean, what do you get for that anyway? They did what they needed to do for Hillary which was vote for her. She lost. Most have moved on.

Another theory is that maybe, just maybe some of Hillary's loyal supporters are secretly appalled by the outrageous debt she racked up and the fact that she and her husband are worth several tens of millions of dollars. In other words, they need the money more than she does.

She doesn't need to change a thing. Yes, Kiera's very thin but I'm pretty sure that's sheer good genetics. She looks like she has lost a little weight from Bend It but not much. Just a skinny, flat-chested gorgeous young woman who is obviously happy with herself. I just hope she stays that way. Hollywood is a killer (see: Meg Ryan and the poor girl from The Practice).

This is Mark Penn's big news? They've always voted.

I'd say operatives should focus on how to capture and keep the latino vote. This is by far the fastest growing segment of the population and unlike the retired, will be voting for decades to come.

The others, not so much. Obama doesn't need to sweep americans off their feet with a foreign policy wonk or a Washington insider. A popular governor who can help him in the South is a good choice. Also, Kaine's faith, fluent spanish and connections to the latino community will help Obama.

As for Clinton, I don't think she has any chance now. She riles many Dems who support Obama and enrages the Right. Obama doesn't need her fundraising connections or scandals or, let's just say it, Bill.

She loves her body and accepts herself. That, to me, is the real lesson. Not "flat or curvy, which is better."

Many good Dems are also Catholic and anti-abortion. Bob Casey for one and, if you recall, he supported Obama well in PA. That doesn't mean they oppose abortion rights for women though. They understand that their own personal religious beliefs shouldn't dictate legislation. Can you say the same of McCain? Hell no. Say goodbye to Roe under a McCain administration.

I think you nailed it. Obama is scared of Bill. I know I am. He doesn't need or want the drama and negativity that comes with this duo. And it's his show after all. I also think that Obama just doesn't like Hillary much and doesn't want her around.

I have to take issue with the Hillary can pull them in scenario. I think she helps with some voters who MIGHT vote for Obama. The white, blue collar workers who aren't happy with NAFTA. Hillary doesn't help with those who would frankly never vote for a black guy. This is the problem in PA and OH. Honesty time. OTOH, she will drive the GOP into frenzied action and, given the toilet where the GOP resides, it is stupid to bring someone on to give Republicans a reason to come out and vote.

Kaine is PERSONALLY anti-abortion. He is a Roman Catholic and a former missionary in Honduras. I hope we can all let the man have his faith. However, as a legislator, he is not anti-abortion. Please read the following link and info from Media Matters, Wa Post

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511110006

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/26/AR2005102602504.html

"Kaine made his abortion remarks at a luncheon event featuring Granholm. About 300 women, and a handful of men, paid $100 each for the fundraiser, which Granholm dubbed "estrogen in the afternoon."

Kaine spoke more extensively than he has previously about abortion, which he said is a "critical issue" in the race because of the changes on the high court, which has protected abortion rights.

"Jerry Kilgore believes that you can't be anti-abortion unless you want to make abortion a crime, and I fundamentally reject that," Kaine said. "I've always opposed making it a crime -- outlawing a woman or a doctor for participating in an abortion. And you don't have to criminalize women or their doctors to be anti-abortion."

Kilgore has said he does not want to criminalize women. He has refused to say whether he would sign a bill banning abortions if a newly constituted Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade , the landmark case guaranteeing the right to an abortion.

That refusal prompted the most unflattering moment of the three debates between Kilgore and Kaine this election season.

At the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce debate in mid-September, moderator and NBC journalist Tim Russert asked whether Kilgore would ban abortion if a new Supreme Court gave him the chance. "That's a hypothetical question," Kilgore responded, adding that he wouldn't answer a hypothetical. Russert then asked if he would sign or veto a tax increase. "I'd veto a tax increase that wasn't approved in a referendum," Kilgore said.

"That's a hypothetical question!" Russert thundered, prompting laughter from the audience.

The exchange between Russert and Kilgore is at the heart of the Republican's accusations against Kaine, which the former attorney general repeated at a Norfolk fundraising luncheon headlined by Giuliani.

Kilgore told the audience of about 500 that Kaine showed a focus group an ad featuring the Russert exchange in violation of the no-use agreement the two signed beforehand.

"Tim Kaine was taking a poll to determine whether he should keep his word," Kilgore said, to applause. "I won't need to take a poll to keep my word. I'll be a governor you can all trust."