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Thursday, April 26, 2007 01:23 PM

Justin C

Your comment was without doubt the most inane comment ever posted here by someone not named Shooter242.

BTW Hitler was not only a meat eater, the Nazi party discriminated against vegetarians. Goerhing however, did require his pilots to eat vegetarian meals before they flew their missions, believeing it would makr them more alert.

Facts about: Hitler's [So-Called] Vegetarianism

by Roberta Kalechovsky

The continual allegation that Hitler was a vegetarian is usually motivated by a wish to discredit vegetarianism by those who oppose it. Good morality or good health policy should neither be motivated nor discredited by whether evil people embrace a certain principle. As Peter Singer said, "The fact that Hitler had a nose doesn't mean we should cut off our noses." The Nazis implemented many health policies such as anti-smoking and anti-pollution legislation, pregnancy and birthing measures for women, that we regard as good measures. However, the allegation that Hitler was a vegetarian is so qualified that one can only call Hitler a "vegetarian" by excluding from the definition of "meat" food such as ham and sausages, which he ate all his life. Robert Proctor calls Hitler a vegetarian "of sorts" (The Nazi War on Cancer, p. 134), which is the most that one can say of his vegetarianism.

Biographical material about Hitler's alleged or qualified vegetarianism are contradictory. He was sometimes described as a "vegetarian," but his fondness for sausages, caviar, and occasionally ham, was well known. Proctor writes that while Hitler was often held up as "the model of Nazi lifestyle," witnesses also noted backsliding. "Otto D. Tolischus in 1937 in The New York Times pointed out that the Führer was a vegetarian who 'does not drink or smoke' but who also 'occasionally relishes a slice of ham' along with delicacies such as caviar and chocolates." (Ibid.) Proctor is content to state that Hitler was a vegetarian who "occasionally would allow himself a dish of meat," (p. 135) and quotes The New York Times as stating that in addition to ham and caviar Hitler also occasionally ate squab. Whatever kind of vegetarian Hitler was, he was not the kind that Gandhi was.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 01:45 PM

Go Giants!

Thanks for telling us about your appearance on Scarborough Country. He's no Keith Olbermann, but Joe has improved tremendously over the last year or so, mainly because he has good guests like you and Arianna Huffington to keep Pat Buchanon in his place. Now if MSNBC would only take the remaining blowhards, Tucker Carlson and Chris Matthews off the air. I'd love to see an afternoon version of THE VIEW, with Joan, Rachel Maddow, Stephanie Miller, and some right wing nitwit like Mary Ann Akers to pick on.

I'll skip the debate and watch the Giants sweep the Dodgers tonight.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 05:37 PM
Original article: She said it! Sort of

Biden's Near Freudian Slip

When asked if he thought the Democratic candidates could win, Biden said(not an exact quote) "I think anybody who is hoping for Hillary is making a big mistake....on the Republican side."

The best candidate for the Democrats in the general election is Bill Richardson. Nothing I saw in the debate changed my mind.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 06:14 PM
Original article: She said it! Sort of

Curmudgeons Unite!

You gotta live Mike Gravel. It's not surprising that the also-rans, Gravel, Biden, Kucinich, and Richardson were far more interesting than the front runners.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 06:20 PM
Original article: She said it! Sort of

Vegans Unite!

Wow! Say what you will about Dennis Kucinich, but his wife is drop-dead gorgeous. Michelle Obama is also hot.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 06:56 PM
Original article: She said it! Sort of

He's Number Two

Both strong, both determined and both immensely qualified.

Clinton/Richardson for 2008

-- Maureen Powell

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That's a good ticket. I still think they would do better in the general election with Richardson at the top of the ticket. Governors make better candidates. Richardson doesn't have much of a chance right now, but it seems he's the frontrunner to be the V.P. candidate.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 07:01 PM

Her Wedding Song

Hey little sister what have you done?

Hey little sister who's the only one?

Hey little sister who's your superman?

Hey little sister who's the one you want?

Hey little sister shot gun!

Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:06 PM

LW, It Could Be Worse

Atleast your sister isn't a vegan.

Friday, April 27, 2007 12:58 PM

Vanilla Guerilla

sonofabastard, perhaps you are a bastard; but mostly, you're just a dick... case in point: the repudiation of anonymous posters (*as if* 'sonofabastard' is somehow less anonymous than saying 'anonymous'); i really have a difficult time respecting pompous pricks who are so dog damned self-righteous about the 'impropriety' of anonymous posters...

-- art guerrilla

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Gee AG, I'm surprised you think I'm such a prick. Take away the insight, wit, irony, and bonhomie from my posts and replace them with banality, snideness, annoying puncuation, and a jejune political philosophy, and we're practically literary twins.

Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:39 AM

I Was Just About To Suggest This

So if you don't want people who desire to be cops to hold those jobs, what do you suggest? Compulsory police service for all citizens the way some countries have compulsory military service?

--Anonymous

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The libertarian in me hates the idea of a draft or compulsory service. However if we were to bring back the draft then yes people should be used to augment our police services. It would mitigate the Us vs. Them attitude that prevails today.

In fact draftees in my world would only be used for domestically, like for the fire department, schools, hospitals, police, and other emergency services.

Saturday, April 28, 2007 03:21 PM

Anonymous, Knoxy Boy Knows He's Full Of It

Hey Knoxy boy

Point number 2: Hitler was not a vegetarian. You've fallen for Nazi propaganda. Google it.

Anonymous

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Don't waste your time with Ob-Knox ious boy and the other meatheads on this thread. I've already posted Hitler's diet to prove he wasn't a vegetarian. These guys are just right wingers who think if you repeat a lie often enough it will become true, or at least it will irritate liberals. It's ironic that LW, wrote about an annoying vegan friend, yet most of the responses are even more dogmatic and annoying than his friend could possibly be. It was just a set-up to bash vegans.

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