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WinSmith

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Monday, January 26, 2009 09:12 AM

@ Glenn Greenwald, Hero to Palestinian Children

What a shock - the word "Israel" is mentioned and he pops up within a matter of moments. Nobody could have predicted that.

Actually I read you every day. Since I agree with you on nearly every other issue, I don't see the need to write "I agree with you Glenn," although your little band of teeny-bopper fans seem to enjoy doing exactly that.

But I'm not a GG groupie, sorry. And I'll call you out when you print repugnant one-sided rants like today's tripe.

And, as usual, he's here not only to speak for himself, but for the vast imaginary army that stands behind him, who he's convinced has anointed him to speak for them ("your credibility is suffering from your Israel writings and you are now fringe," he pronounces -- not on behalf of himself but for the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of people who speak through him).

Please quote me when claiming I've ever argued I speak for anyone but myself. You're a liar! A liar!

(Sorry, the "you're a liar!" defense works so wonderfully when GG does it to anyone who doesn't cite chapter and verse when responding to him.)

Calling you fringe is fairly obvious -- no one else outside of David Duke and Pat Buchanan publish such one-sided rage filled bullshit about Israel.

Monday, January 26, 2009 09:24 AM

@ Glenn Greenwald, Crusader for the Palestinian Innocents

Please quote me when claiming I've ever argued I speak for anyone but myself. You're a liar! A liar!

Too many to list all of them -- here's just one:

Don't worry friend, soon you'll drive out all voices of dissent and you can have you own little mirror of the right wing echo chamber over here, where your dittoheads will nod as you rant away about Israel, and your credibility on the FISA and punditry class become seen as valid as when Lyndon Larouche makes a cogent point on taxation.

http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/14/friedman/permalink/f7f1780a13463cda1250bac54ec4327e.html

Uhm, how does that mean I claim I'm speaking for more than myself? I simply cite myself as a voice of dissent, and claim you're driving out all voices of dissent.

I speak only for me. I've never claimed to speak for a group, and your accusation that I did so was a lie.

Monday, January 26, 2009 09:33 AM

@ Majorojam

Brilliant post, sir. I salute you.

At the very very least, this is not a set of issues that lend themselves to pat blog post tirades, but one would never know that from this column and the tone employed. So it should be no surprise that the substance is underwhelming in the extreme. If it were anyone else, I wouldn't care. It's unfortunate that it is one of our most effective agitators for reform of our necrotic establishment, but so it goes.

My feelings exactly. I'm repeatedly called a Neo-Con, or a "Zionist" or a million other insults in here for daring to question the Greenwald orthodoxy.

Incidentally, I just added up the words in Glenn's post. 1,784 (although a significant percentage of that are article citations).

While Glenn cites articles that refer to Hamas, Glenn makes zero mentions of the word "Hamas" on his own. Instead he substitutes "Gaza." As in the following:

And Haaretz reports that preventing Palestinians in Gaza from re-arming itself is now -- for some reason -- an ongoing military operation of the United States

Glenn cites "Palestinians in Gaza." Not "Hamas." See more Glenn wordplay:

There were several aspects of the Israeli attack on Gaza that made it even more horrifying than the standard atrocities of war

What possible justification is there for the U.S. (as opposed to Israel) to use its military and the money of its taxpayers to ensure that the Palestinians remain defenseless?

What possible justification is there for using American resources -- the American military -- to patrol the Red Sea in order to ensure that Gazans remain defenseless

Why, on top of all of that, are increasingly scarce American resources, rather than Israeli resources, being used to bar Palestinians from obtaining weapons?

Utter one-sided propaganda. For GG, Hamas = Palestinians. That ignorance alone should disqualify anyone from taking his rants seriously any more.

And that's the ultimate tragedy. The most important civil libertarian voice in media today lost to hatred.

But hey, Henry Ford made great cars.

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