I give up even reading this shit.

These boards (in particular forums on this subject) have come down to two types of posters:

A: The unhinged and the robots. Only want to make trouble. They don't really necessarily even believe what are saying because they are either being paid by an interest group or doing this gratis just to try to damage Obama's chances. I'll also toss in as "unhinged" those very very few real women who really would vote against their own interests simply to spite Obama. There is no point in arguing with these people. They are here to try to spread bad memes, not engage in debate.

B: The poor souls who don't realize they are talking to A.

Salon forums are DEAD. Good job, robots, you shut us down.

Bye.

"Obamabots are suggesting that a "joke about beating his wife" was inappropriate"

"attacked McCain for mistreating his former wife (even though..."

I had to laugh at the irony of these two sentences in the same comment. Ya think maybe someone who has been accused of "mistreating" his wife and calling her a "cu^^" should avoid jokes about beating wives?

I have been reading Salon for 10 years and paying since they started charging. I have never thought twice about re-upping every year because I always felt Salon was the best of the best in journalism.

But now I am losing that warm fuzzy feeling. This article is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with Salon right now. This article seems to have been written to raise doubts, not answer questions. "Democratic Unity" is a BOGUS ISSUE. Salon has been harping this tune ad nauseum and I am personally fucking sick of it. Salon is poisoning the water. Between Joan's passive aggressive anti-Obama drivel to the hordes of trolls patroling the comments, Salon is not the place it was even last year. About the only reason I read Salon these days is for Machinist and War Room, both of which also seem to be losing steam.

This is it. If I don't see a dramatic improvement, I will not be resubscribing.

That is pure B.S. You are bogus and inconsequential.

gala11 = BarbaraZ = Zyskandar A. Jaimot = NewYorkNY = Cow Head Soup = ONE PAID REPUBLICAN POSTER.

*sigh*

*YAWN* If you want to get paid to post, don't be so obvious about it. I know you get paid for the quantity and not quality of your posts, but at least put a _little_ effort into it.

Give it up. Its over. No one cares what the hell you robots are beeping about. Luckily bots can't vote, and the people who control them are republican anyway.

"But those wont to such mockery likely do not remember, or never experienced, what it was like to live in Dunkin' Donuts land in the pre-Starbucks era. Starbucks, for millions of Americans, offered a clear step forward."

This is the point I make to those who rag on Starbucks.

I remember driving across the country in 1996. There were no coffee shops as we now know them anywhere except college towns. And even those were usually filthy, decrepit places with uncleaned machines and a "hip" yet apathetic staff. Ask for a mocha and they'd squirt an ounce of Hershey's syrup in the cup.

Like it or not, Starbucks standardized espresso and brought high quality (yeah I know it'd debatable, but its still better than the mud you got in the early 1990s) coffee to the entire country.

I still think Starbucks is better than most of the "mom and pop" places around.

And yes, Starbucks is a capitalist enterprise. They put other coffeeshops out of business because they offer a product that most people prefer to the inconsistent quality (and often filthy environment) of most others.

... when these polls might mean anything.

Congratulations. Yours is the dumbest post I have read in several months!

I can spot someone talking on the phone on the highway from 50 yards away. They can't drive in a straight line - constantly having to correct their course and they look almost exactly like a drunk driver. I am already anticipating getting pissed off at people who will defend driving and yacking on this forum.

Face it. When you talk on the phone and drive, you endanger yourself and others. It is pure arrogance.

Hope you only kill yourself and not take anyone else with you, putz.

They swerve. They drive too slow. They endanger others. The evidence is visible on every highway.

No other distraction causes such shitty driving.

Get over yourself. No one is impressed. You are only endangering other people - and its OBVIOUS.

Is your inane conversation REALLY more important than the safety of the people around you?

Seriously. Its pure arrogance.

... but I can tell you are talking on the phone by your crappy driving.

You are not special. You are no better driver while talking on the phone than the drunk who says he drives fine when he's drinking.

I can see you. I see how shitty you are driving. There are no exceptions.

*yawn* Ad hominem attacks? Boring.

"How is talking to people on the phone with a headset ANY more dangerous than talking to your passangers in your car?"

The answer is in the article you are posting comments on:

"But there's a difference between talking to somebody in the car and on the phone. Most passengers in the car adjust their conversation to what's happening on the road, quieting down when traffic gets hectic or even pointing out hazards up ahead, acting as a second set of eyes. The person on the other end of a cellphone call might not know you're driving, much less be aware of the road conditions. "The difficulty is that the party on the other line has no sense of your driving situation and just yaks, and the driver elects to do it, too," explains Paul Allan Green, research professor at the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute, where he leads the Driver Interface Group."