A great example of how Fallwell lies.

Liberty counts all the points all their entrants have earned, the JV teams, etc. And they have more entrants than most colleges, so they have more total points.

They've NEVER beat Harvard. But since they have a lot of 12th place entrants, their total points add up to a lot. But they're a medium level team and in no way compet with the top notch ivies. And these points they add up are not used in the debate system, it's their own classification they made up to claim they're #1.

ah yes, dear ole' L.U., where school policy forebade blacks and whites from dating each other. How dispicable to try to hold that up as a standard of higher learning. The only learning there is prejudice, enforced by university policy and ole Fallwell hisself.

ps, that figure of 20,000 enrollment includes "online" enrollees. The actual current FTE (full time enrollment) is about 9,000.

as already mentioned, that's not true. Liberty decided to add up all the cumulative points of all their debaters throughout the year, and annouce themselves with the most points and the winners. Problem is the National Debate organizations don't determine the winner that way. They've never taken 1st place, period. They've had a LOT of 5th place winners, though. They give 1st place 5 points, and 5th place one point, so they rationalize that 6 5th place winners add up to 6, which is more than the 1st place winner scored with 5. So they announce themselves the all time super winners of the universe! Problem is, it's a lie. And really steals from the students who actually DID win (from OTHER universities, by the way).

check the National Debate Tournament website. The 2007 national debate tournament season’s top 5 teams are: U. of Georgia, U of Oklahoma, U of Kansas, Dartmouth, Wayne State University. Look at the pictures of the happy students who worked so hard to win. and then tell me why Liberty lies about winning that award, think about those 'christins' stealing these kids' honor.

3/28/2006-EAST LANSING, Mich. – For the second time in three years, a team from Michigan State University has been crowned national debate champions.

one of the two national intercollegiate parliamentary debate organizations in the United States and the largest college debate organization in the United States

·2007: Tim Kamermeyer and Griffith Vertican (Point Loma Nazarene University)

·2006: Josh Anderson and Rachel Safran (University of Puget Sound)

·2005: Paul Bingham & Meredith Price (Lewis & Clark College)

·2004: Ian Samuel & Marie Tenny (Truman State University)

·2003: Michael Owens & Joshua Wilkerson (University of Wyoming)

·2002: Ben Garcia & Chris Richter (University of Alaska Anchorage)

·2001: Danny Barak & Will Trachman (University of California, Berkeley)

·2000: Ryan Kennedy & Jacob Stutzman (Truman State University)

·1999: Geof Brodak & Bill Herman (Colorado State University)

·1998: Heath Curtis & Rebekah Gilbert (Concordia University, Seward)

·1997: Dan Nelson & Marcus Paroske (Regis University)

·1996: Ryan Levy & Scott Ruthfield (Rice University)

·1995: Meredith Marine & Neal Sample (University of Wyoming)

·1994: Marcus Paroske & Tammy Schultz (Regis University)

APDA national champions

2007 Yale: David Denton and Dylan Gadek

2006 Princeton: Dan Greco and Michael Reilly

2005 Harvard: Alex Blenkinsopp and Alex Potapov

2004 Harvard: Marty Roth and Nico Cornell

2003 Yale: Jay Cox and Tim Willenken

2002 Princeton: Edward Parillon and Yoni Schneller

2001 Yale: Brian Fletcher and Scott Luftglass

2000 Princeton: Jeremiah Gordon and Matt Schwartz

1999 Columbia: Carissa Byrne and John Castelly

1998 Harvard: Eric Albert and Justin Osofsky

1997 Johns Hopkins: Rebecca Justice and David Weiner

1996 UPenn: Liz Rogers and Peter Stris

1995 Swarthmore: Jeremy Mallory and Neal Potischman

1994 Swarthmore: Dave Carney and Neal Potischman

1993 Columbia: Thanos Basdekis and Morty Dubin

1992 Harvard: Chris Harris and David Kennedy

1991 Princeton: Robert Ewing and Christopher Ray

1990 Wesleyan: Andrew Borsanyi and Joel Potischman

1989 Harvard: Nick Alpers and Pat Bannon

1988 Brown: Aaron Belkin and Jason Grumet

1987 Swarthmore: Josh Davis and Reid Neureiter

1986 Harvard: Ben Alpers and Mike Dorf

1985 Brown: Martha Hirschfield and Tim Moore

1984 United States Naval Academy: Chuck Fish and Marshall Parsons

1983 Harvard: Neil Buchanan and Doug Curtis

1982 Princeton: Robert Gilbert and Richard Sommer

1981 Amherst: J.J. Gertler and Tom Massaro

Only it's NOT true. You believe what the L.U. rep tells you about the school, but I went to the webpages of the 2 national collegiate debate organizations, and read the awards for the last 20 years.

check the National Debate Tournament website. The 2007 national debate tournament season’s top 5 teams are: U. of Georgia, U of Oklahoma, U of Kansas, Dartmouth, Wayne State University. L.U. LIED about winning that honor.

and they didn't get in the top 5 national debate tournament in 2006 either:

1st - Harvard University - Michael Klinger & Nikhil Mirchandani

2nd - Cal Berkeley - Michael Burshteyn & Craig Wickersham

3rd - Michigan State - Ryan Burke & Casey Harrigan

4th - Northwestern - Noah Chestnut & Josh Branson

5th - Dartmouth - Kathryn Clark & Brian Smith

the LIED about that too and stole the glory from these hard-working students

Yes. I'm from Va, we've known about Fallwell years before he hit national headlines. Girls HAVE to wear skirts.

L.U. also requires that their biology professors believe in creationism rather than evolution.

Three students at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University were dismissed because they "refused to stop worshiping at a Pentecostal church," as opposed to the Baptist services mandated by the school. University staff said that the three were "creating some confusion" among the other students by sharing with them their differing religious beliefs. Associated Press, 9/27/91

Referring to the Supreme Courts' decision in Brown v. Board of Education, Christian televangelist and Liberty University founder Jerry Falwell once said [in a 1958 speech], "If Chief Justice [Earl] Warren and his associates had known God's Word..., I am quite confident that the 1954 decision would never have been made." There is no record of an apology. [National Journal, 11/3/84]