Have any of these 'Pumas" ever LIVED through a presidential election? (I AM a middle aged white woman, feminist since 11th grade.) You sound so naive and unrealistic about presidential elections in the US. Did you pay attention 4 years ago? 8? 12? It's hard to believe you really are of voting age, democrats, women, feminist, etc. with any expereince in any of those subjects. That is why I think many people think you're republican trolls, you don't appear to know anything about reproductive rights, the supreme court, elections, the candidates' positions. Also, the language is very immature, like what a rude 15 year old girl would use. "snotty Obamatons" ? Really from middleaged women with years in the trenches fighting sexism? Doubt it. Sounds more like bored school kids (oh, sigh, school is out) wanted to stir something up.

Lets move on to intellectual dialogue.

REbecca, "reasons why" is redundant sloppy grammar.

There can be a dozens reasons Clinton voters are still angrey, or

we can discuss why Clinton voters are still angry.

But reasons why? bad form

"I'm a African American, and I do not trust Barack Hussein Obama, as far as I can throw him."

your whole letter rings of a young white College Republican laughing as he sees himself throwing the election by posing in chats.

angry or self-centered?

And then there's most of us: we don't hate her, we don't love her, we just prefer Obama over her. And that's one of many problems with these so called pumas, they think if we don't love Hillary, we hate her. No. We just preferred a differenct Democrat.

Happens every 4 years, lots of good democrats diagree over who should be the nominee. Nothing new here folks, move along. That's why I know this puma movement is rightwing plants and idiots. No real feminist or democrat would prefer McCain over Obama. Period. no real actively involved citizen would not get that process of moving from primary season to the general election and see in a greater context.

sure there have, plenty of times.

Do some reading, your lack of knowledge, history, and perspective is showing.

"the trashing of the only successful two term democrat president"

Only a republican would say "democrat president".

All Democrats rightly word it: "Democratic president."

and guess she never heard of FDR

It was the Clintons, both Bill and Hillary, who were instrumental in buidling the DLC, so how can Clinton supporters criticize Obama for being more conservative! Do your research people! It was Bill and Hillary who ushered in the Age of The New Moderate Democrat.

That's DRIVEL.

Get a dictoionary if you want to try to debate with the big boys.

I agree. I was born in 1961 and DO NOT identify with the boomer generation. I don't feel like I fit in with the Gen Xers either, I truely think there's a few years (1960-1964?) of folks who fall between the cracks, don't identify with either the boomers or Genxers. Someone who could coin a phrase to represent us could get a few articles out of it.

already threw one election.

someone stop him before he does it again

you did go to college, right? Why can't a national journalist grasp basic grammar?

when you pose for the National Enquirer, you lose the right to ask for respect.

all of us feel our body does not reflect us, who we really are. All of use don't want people prying, making judgements. We don't get special treatment or demand people ignore facts and follow our feelings rather than facts.

I have to agree. If someone told us he'd only feel 'right' if he cut off his arm, we'd say he's mentally ill and get him therapy to fix that. We would NOT cut off his arm.

I think we need to live the hand we were dealth with our bodies and define ourselve by our acts rather than by our dissatifaction with our bodies.

no, you're stupid for using Wiki and intellectual in the same sentence

yes. I am very liberal, but I have to use consistent logical protocals for this sort of thing.

That's one thing that really bothers me, this traditional belief that there's only one way a male mind can be and only one way a female mind can be. And if you have a "male" mind (like's cars?) you must be a male trapped in a female body.

Why not expand what a male and female mind is, or rather STOP defning it. And let each person's mind be thier mind, without having to categorize is as exclusivly male or female.

then people who are differnt don't have to cut off body parts to feel right. YOu're right just as you're born.

If you checked out my mind, parts of it would be labeled 'male' by your rigid definitiosn.

dude, she's just not that into you

you make me think of a lot of superficial drama queens who's constant complaining is really a way of saying "look at me!"

So you're thinner than most aging women and they make envious comments.

what's your problem again?

sounds like the ole poor little rich girl cry "I'm so rich and pretty, everyone is envious of me, poor poor me!!!"

Don't hate me cuz I'm beautiful! what torment!

give it a rest honey. we get it. You're thinner than us.

MEOW!

No, her skin isn't thin. She LOVES getting the comments and she LOVES ranting about them because that's another way of saying "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME"

iT'S all about princess and ways to get people's attention. Remember WHY Drama Queens are Drama Queens: FOR THE ATTENTION.

IT'S ALL ABOUT ATTENTION ADDICTS WHO NEED EVERYTHING TO BE ABOUT THEM. IT'S ABOUT KNOWING THAT RAVING GETS ATTENTION AND MORE ATTENTION.

So everyone else stop fighting about being fat or thin. She even feeds off knowing she started so many emotional disagreemetns here.

BUT NOW THAT I AM TOO, WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON!

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