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Cosmic Mojo

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Thursday, March 27, 2008 07:54 AM

How is blowing up a building that engages in acts against nature

er, buildings do not engage in acts, lol.

That belief that one building is part of the problem, rather than a community meeting space for countless differnt people and views is part of the problem. That belief that innocent collateral can be sacraficed for the sake of YOUR personal views is wrong. The building did nothing, yet you think it's OK to ruin it and anyone who inconveniently happens to be in there at the same time. Just to make YOUR point.

The building, nor any of it's inhabitatanst were NOT engaged in "acts against nature." (lol, sounds like what they used to say about homosexuality--You sound about as shrill and intolerant as those extreme fundamentalist haters)

Thursday, March 27, 2008 08:01 AM

The arson occurred in 2001. Very few (if any) places keep video records for 6 years.

and she kept her ATM receipt for 6 years? Hmmm. It proves nothing, her boyfreind could have used her PIN to withdraw money, it in no way proves she was there.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 09:51 AM

Or maybe her squat man is one of the thousands of readers here on Salon and she didn't want to hurt him.

Then why did she send the letter to Cary to start with?

She thought she was going to get sympathy but then had poster's remorse when she read the resonse revealing how shallow she is. She was able to nag and manipulate Cary to remove the letter (more luck than she's had with her husband).

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:00 AM

Actually, o ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you have all accepted this was terrorism without hearing a single word from the defendants about their intent.

doesn't matter. Once you step onto someone else's property and mess with their stuff, you're in defiance of the law.

You can make your own choices for your own life and belongings. But you can't take other people's stuff and blow it up.

Many college buildings have hard working grad students in them all night long, all weekend long 24/7. When I was in undergrad we used to sleep under our studio desks rather than walk home at 4am. Saying it was 3am in no way guarantees it would be empty. Anyone who chooses to blow up a college building is attempting murder since they don't know if there's anyone in the building.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:07 AM

But the act wasn't directed at an otherwise uninvolved civilian population with the intent of inducing panic and swaying public opinion. It was directed at the environmental research itself, with the intention of stopping it by reducing it to hot ash.

sure it was aimed at innocent people. The rumored research (which didn't exist) would have been taking place in ONE lab. The rest of the building, the other 100 rooms WERE blown up for no reason. Post docs trying to finish research by a deadline to get a grant had their hopes dashed. REsearchers trying to CURE CANCER lost all their data. Poor students with scholarships have to retake classes they could ill afford because their experiments were all ruined, data lost, research ruined. Innocent people trying to make the world a better place because a Heroin addict told people there was a bad man in there. (He may have know that wasn't true).

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:15 AM

civil disobedience

Civil disobedience is just that: civil. Nonviolent.

Disobedience is refusing to follow an unfair law (like drinking out of a "coloreds" water fountain, or giving up your seat to a white man), not committing an act of violent against other people.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:20 AM

what if

what if you were practicing Satanism in your house, which is your right. And your well-meaning neighbor blew up your house cuz he sincerely knew that what you're doing is wrong. Legal but wrong. Sure, he waited til you went to work so no people would be injured, but he KNEW, just KNEW it was his obligation to stop that legal but OFFENSIVE act.

You'd be mad. You'd call him a zealot, a monster, a criminal, a controller, a terrorist. you'd want him punished for his mad, illegal frightening acts of violence against your home, your castle, your family, your place, your property, your sense of security.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:15 AM

po-TAY-toe/po-TAA-toe

It's using lethal violence to force your personal philosphy on other otherwise good people acting legally.

Terrorism, arson, dangerous indifference, attempted murder, facism, whatev.

It's wrong, illegal, lethal, arrogant, dangerous and controlling. I don't really care what you call it. It must not be allowed by anyone, liberal or conservative. Call it flying banannas for all I can. Just. Stop. It.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:32 AM

No, I wouldn't. You're projecting.

so you'd have us believe you'd be OK if someone burned down your house because your political beliefs were different from theirs. bull. I'm not projecting, I'm stating that no human is OK with their house being burned down for political and control reasons.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:14 PM

You tried to tell me that I would want my arsonist neighbor convicted as a terrorist because I was so violated

oh please find where i typed such words, I did not. Just who is projecting ?

The fact is, NONE of us would like our home or work to be bombed by someone just because we have different --albeit legal-- beliefs and lifestyles. It's never right, be it done by KKKers, or ELFs. It infringes on our own right to live our lifes as we legally choose. It is violence forced on us regardless of the sincerity of the offender. Everyone believes THEir cause is rightous, elfs, fundamentalists, terrorists.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:21 PM

definition

terorism:

the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.

Sure sounds like what they did.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 01:33 PM

Researchers don't keep all their "life's work" in isolated file cabinets.

most i know do. Besides work that's already published, and thus available at any academic library, all their current research is at their lab. they are often forbidden from taking work home due to security issues. Remember the nuclear lab dude who took the laptop home and lost it? Theri computers are offline, again, for security issues. My sister has to go down the hall to get on an online computer to email me, all her daily work is done on a secure computer with NO connections.

Thursday, March 27, 2008 01:53 PM

Heh. I have to question the intelligence of any research department — corporate, scholarly or governmental — that would keep all of its research in a place where it could be completely wiped out by one fire.

rESULTS, SURE. But experiments? They're one of a kind projects. Petri dishes, etc. You don't run two experiments simultaneously in 2 different labs. You have one lab, one experiment and if the lab burns, years of work is gone. Gone. Tens of thousands of dollars. Gone. You've been developing a strain of something, growing it for years, ready to test results and your lab burns down. You can't get that from the back-up server. It's physical work that's so subject to terroristm, duh that's why they burned down the lab, they knew it would ruin years of research. Years. Tens of thousands of dollars. Oh, heck prob 6 figures, not 5.

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