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Michael Harold

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 06:29 AM

@ USMCvet -- Libby apologists

The one thing that continues to sit across the table and glare at me day in and day out is this:

I really do believe that the majority of human beings would prefer to live their lives in peace and harmony with those around them. For that reason they want to give the benefit of the doubt to others whose actions may seem to reflect different motives than their own. I believe this applies as much to Americans as to any other group of people.

Libby's conviction says on its face: Libby is a liar and a criminal.

Libby worked for Cheney. Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld and George Bush are all in this together. They are compadres. They go way back. By association, if Libby is a liar and a criminal, what does that say about the others.

Despite the desire to believe otherwise, I think that the majority of the American people are about to come to the conclusion that Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld and George Bush are liars and criminals.

That is why they are fighting this tooth and nail. If Libby is "innocent", then they are all "innocent." If Libby is forced to go to jail, they they are all guilty through association.

And so is the MSM. And they know it.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 07:38 AM

Well written Glenn

And absolutely true in every single way.

(Just kidding.)

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:34 AM

God I love this blog

One, it's funny.

Two, it's intelligent and well researched.

Three, I agree will nearly 95% of the articles by Glenn. (I would like it anyway, even if I only agreed 90% of the time.)

Four, I counted 34 comments before any mention of Libertarianism.

Five, it has THE MAJOR.

Six, it's a good as Digby's. And Digby's is the best.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 01:56 PM

@healthysceptic re: What did the left nut say to the right nut?

When any person takes it upon themselves to provide a list of moderate policy positions, they immediately open themselves to criticism from anyone with a different list.

Since many people prefer to think of themselves as believing in, if not the truth, then at least something that will not result in the accusation that they are a lunatic commie fascist nazi over-the-top whackjob criminal or sexual deviant, they will normally insist that everything they are moderate and those who have differing opinions are not.

To be clear, I am, in fact, a moderate. As a moderate I believe in constitutional law, the separation of church and state, the rights of the individual as defined in documents such as the Magna Carta, the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the U.N. Charter.

As a moderate I also believe in free economic trade (not to be confused with the monopoly capitalism currently practiced by America's corporocrazy), free education, free healthcare, free sex and free speech although not necessarily in that order.

As a moderate I also believe that a democracy should not bomb or invade other countries who have done nothing to deserve it, should not murder, torture, imprison, disappear, or smear innocent people, whether citizens or not and should not spend all of their money on war, sell themselves into a foreign debt they can never repay and then scream that there is no money for anything else.

As a moderate I also believe in decriminalizing most drugs, allowing public nudity, legalizing prostitution and allowing pretty much anything else that represents normative behavior in beautiful, beautiful Copenhagen.

Anyone to the near left or right of my moderate beliefs is a liberal or conservative, respectively. Anyone the the far left or right of my moderate beliefs is an extremist.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 06:22 PM

@SomeNYGuy re: Wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen

Sorry to nitpick, but according to Frank Loesser (via Danny Kaye) it's "wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen," not "beautiful, beautiful." Unless you're quoting from the wingnut remake, Hans Christianist Andersen. Or you're really high right now.

I first heard the song when I was dating the beautiful, young woman who was to become my first wife. We were both very young. Her little sister would sit in the living room and play the piano and sing in her best 12 year old operatic voice "Beautiful, beautiful Copenhagen" to annoy the heck out of us. In other words, I stand corrected. Thanks.

With respect to your second point, I would like to quote from one of my as yet unpublished books:

Life is a hallucination. Everyone is constantly hallucinating. Hallucinations lie near the root of consciousness and are the same quantum neural events that lead to recognition, thoughts and dreams. It is only on certain occasions that our deeper hallucinations come into the foreground and we experience the moment as a type of enlightenment (or alien abduction, paranoid delusion, apocalyptic revelation, etc.). As long as our hallucinations maintain a close correspondence with the hallucinations of others, the physical world remains relatively stable.

I left the house for several hours and when I came back I began reading the comments. I read yours and posted this. I will now continue with my commentary journey.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 06:43 PM

@Shooter242

Have any of those mentioned above ever said anything positive about Bush? Anything? Nothing? No one can do that and claim to be moderate.

Ok, ok.

Let's see . . . Bush seems to like . . . having his picture taken.

Also, I believe that women should be able to pretty much do anything they want where their bodies are concerned. Men don't need to be told that, because they do whatever they want anyway and always have.

Also, open borders immigration and citizenship should be open to Hispanic immigrants until such time as we have a permanent progressive majority that will last 100 years at which point I won't worry so much about us becoming a totalitarian police state.

I'm a moderate.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 07:16 PM

@healthysceptic: re: 53/314

Dude,

Like you're totally bogarting the thread. You've posted 53 of 314 comments. That's like, one out of six comments.

That is so uncool.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 07:42 PM

@RealName - re: 40 pages of bickering. Wow.

It's only been 33 pages.

(You always exaggerate. That's why I can't take you seriously. That and the fact that you never have anything substantial to say.)

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