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When people start quoting scripture from their own or other religious texts to make a point, they usually grab their quotes from wherever they can find them.
For example:
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."
Here's another:
2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
And this:
1 Kings 18:40 "Then Elijah said to them, 'Seize the prophets of Baal; do not let one of them escape.' So they seized them; and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there."
Human being should not kill each other. Human beings should not try to convince other human beings to kill each other. It's uncivilized. In fact, it's barbaric.
Leaving aside the estimated number of Iraqi dead as a direct result of Western geo-politics and war, I thought I would confine myself to a short list of genocides from the middle of the last century to the present beginning with the most recent.
Darfur 2,000,000
Rwanda 937,000
West Papua 300,000
Bosnia 200,000
Tibet 87,000
Iraqi Kurds 50,000
Afghanistan 1,000,000
East Timor 200,000
Cambodia 2,000,000
Burundi 150,000
Bangladesh 1,500,000
Guatemala 200,000
Soviet Union 7,000,000
Turkey 4,300,000
Nazi Germany 6,000,000
Looking at this, I don't think it makes sense to look at religion, or politics or economics as the sole cause of mass murder. Even without war, some governments have been more than happy to kill large segments of their own indigenous populations from time to time for any number of reasons.
I have to say that I find all of this Muslim hating disingeneous to say the least. It's seems just a little too convenient for me. If it weren't the Muslims it would be the Mexicans, the African Americans, the Chinese, the Russians, the Democrats, the gays, (am I leaving anybody out that we need to hate and kill and chop up in little pieces and feed to the dogs?) Face it, this type of behavior is just an excuse to hate somebody. Don't be player haters.
BTW, Christianity, Islam and Judaism are all three Abrahamic religions. They're all derived from the same sources more or less and account for about two-thirds of the worlds six billion people. We better figure out how to get along unless we're prepared to kill several billion people to get rid of all the unbelievers.
Correction on Darfur. Only 200,000 dead. Only.
My apologies.
Kicking ass and taking names.
I love this blog.
Do any of these anti-Islamic alarmists protest the billions of dollars going to Lockheed, General Dynamics, Alliant Techsystems, GM, Boeing or United Technologies in arms sales to Muslim nations?
No. I think where Vietnam and now Iraq are concerned, past, present and future conversations between Democrats and Republicans will continue to go something like this:
Dr. Peter Venkman: Egon, this reminds me of the time you tried to drill a hole through your head. Remember that?Dr. Egon Spengler: That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me. (Ghost Busters)
I ask the readers to remember that the U.S. is the only country in history to use a nuclear weapon against a civilian population, not once, but twice. And this administration has threatened the use of nuclear weapons (under the term "bunker busters") as an act of war against a second Middle East nation that has not attacked us.
In the movie, "The Fog of War," Robert McNamara said, "LeMay said if we lost the war that we would have all been prosecuted as war criminals. And I think he's right. He... and I'd say I... were behaving as war criminals."
We cannot continue our present course of aggression against other nations with impunity. As developed nations increasingly perceive us as an aggressor nation, they will do what is necessary to protect themselves from us -- economically, politically, militarily.
As a nation, we do not have the means to establish ourselves as arbiters of justice over all humanity. Our leaders should not act as if we do. And they certainly should not encourage our citizens to think that we even have the right to try.
This is not a video game or a TV show. This is real life and death. This is real pain, suffering and tragedy. We are not children pulling the wings off flies. We are talking about killing other human beings like ourselves. There are consequences not only to these types of acts, but to even this type of thinking.
My fear is not of what terrorists can take from us, but of our own self-conscious and willful loss of humanity.
We are rapidly descending as a nation into a dark age.
Are you "dissenters" the same two or three people changing your commenter names from time to time, or are you actually different people. The reason I ask is because I've noticed that your comments are more than repetitive, they're starting to look like cut-and-paste.
I take it you don't tourist vacation in Vietnam.
Given what happened in Vietnam after we lost the war and left,
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maybe the revisionist history types will claim a similar victory for capitalism forty years after we've left the Middle East.
While America funnels its lives and resources into the money pit called "war," Vietnam is busy assisting in the rapid rise of Asia to dominance of the world stage. What's that saying? "Success is the greatest revenge."