Seriously, you dems clinging to your hope in "the system" fixing things, especially the war and the fact that people really think that one party can provide leadership and solutions in one area of big government while the other side can't. Doesn't anyone ever stop to smell the roses and see that neither side can run either effectively (both domestic and foreign policy), and that to expand domestic policy (socialized medicine) and not expect it to expand in areas of foreign policy (war) and vice versa, at least in the USA as it currently stands, is a bit naive?

Didn't the midterm elections teach you anything about who really calls the shots in Washington? The dems totally spit in the face of their own constituency when they caved to the "timelines" and I am supposed to believe these people won't gave to the sweet sweet money they all love so much? I am supposed to believe that a political hack like Pelosi is going to end the war after her little wink and nod to the executive. She should have just said "Hey Bush, go ahead and nuke Iran because, oh noes! A bunch of far-right Zionist Jews in AIPAC booed me and might not like me and we can't have that because they give me lots of moneyz! I'd better run home and scrub that bill clean of anything that will prevent Israel and the US from nuking whomever they please".

Get real. Grow up. The system is broken and if you think that dems are going to end the war or that they will do something to change business as usual you're wrong. Bush promised the same thing in 2000 and the dems promised it last midterm. They all lied.

Here is the plan. They are going to do is hole up our "minimal" amount of troops in our permanent military bases in Iraq (conveniently stationed along an oil pipeline) while the Blackwater Army continues looting Iraq and the raping the US taxpayer.

Welcome to modern "democracy". Jefferson said that democracy is 51% of the people telling the other 49% what to do. It appears he was wrong, it is more like the top 5% telling the other 95% what to do.

Neocons, Zionists, Pretribulationists, Communitarians, etc. Everyone has an agenda.

Perhaps the reason that we didn't bomb Iran when the sailors were taken was because the administration fears the resignations that might occur. If top brass all resigned it would be a fiasco, it would undermine the main ideological force of neocon agenda and be disastrous for the fear mongers of the war machine.

The house of cards could crumble. The people could wake up and see a naked emperor, which completely contradicts the neocon ideal of hegemony, as well as the Orwellian flavor of "Patriotism" that they have built around their old chestnut, "The Troops". How could the warmongers still claim to support "The Troops" if "The Troops" aren't supporting them?

Michael Shurer has it right. They won't be coming over here if we listened to them and stopped supporting the brutal regimes over there and left them alone. And in leaving them alone, we can do what the 2nd amendment instructs us to do and become America the porcupine, strong state militias and National Guard instead of standing armies. The ultimate would-be insurgent guerrilla force.

Let them try and get here when we are really focused on our own real national security and embrace things like open source intelligence and train soldiers to protect important infrastructure in the towns they grew up in as opposed to contractor and terrorist looting sites, er, I mean infrastructure in Iraq. The 2nd Amendment > Caliphate USA, and that is what would happen if the crazies tried to come to a prepared and constitutional United States. Besides, once we leave the crazies will be busy killing each other for power and rank (which is what they are really all about) and focusing on their own regional problems. Change the policy so as to drain the swamp and there will be no more mosquitoes.

And if things do get nasty in the middle east after we leave? Who cares? Let them kill each other, they won't be killing us. It will keep them all busy and we won't be involved. Let them focus on and fight amongst themselves while we stay out of it (or document it as for the information age). Then they can't play the CIA blame game and we avoid a great deal of blowback.

The caliphate idea makes me laugh. To me that is like LDS, Jesuits, and Branch Davidians getting together to take over the planet. The Muslims fight amongst themselves and I am supposed to believe that all of sudden they will all unite and get along, and that the people who are just as sick of the rhetoric as we are will lay down and let them get away with it. Yeah, right. I like to think that women are smarter and braver than that, because their dignity and rights are real and important issues in all of this.

She is so fake that everything she touches turns to pyrite.