Anything that anyone does to defeat McCain and the Neocons is worth it and to hell with ethics, fairness, and all of that. Defeating McCain will save thousands of lives.

So these guys authorized all of these techniques, but where the hell did the nudity, the pseudo-homo pyramids, broomsticks in the rectum, was all of that just spur-of-the-moment improvisations?

Or was that designed in the White House, too?

I just find it amazing that "macho" men always want to be getting guys naked and make them do this kind of shit.........

You'd have to be pretty "bent" to want to stick a broom handle in a guy's ass!

But what comfort is there for those of us who have opposed this from the beginning? As I have said before, this is a stain on each and every one of us.

I call my congressman's office and the lady just laughs at me. How sad.

Did I read here that 108 have died in our captivity as a result of this treatment?

I tend to associate him with FLIP FLOPPING STUPID OLD WRONG ABOUT EVERY F**KING THING!

You go, Girl!

We've got to keep hammering. Glenn, you are right with it. How about that "Nutcrackin' Condi Rice? Mistress Condi and Abu Graib! Who would have imagined it?

ain't sh*t without some serious pennance. You should all be sentenced to work in refugee camps where Iraqis have taken refuge from your "mistake"..... Or picking up body parts after bomb blasts.

This "same crowd" showed a fair amount of competence with Iran-Contra.....

And they even modeled THIS fiasco on many aspects of THAT fiasco.

Too bad we can't hang them, like they did Saddam.....

Someone used that phrase in a comment somewhere ".....bloody John McCain....." I guess as an adjective, as the British are wont to do....

It seems like a great nickname to me.

but didn't mean it after?

This guy takes flip-flopping to a radical new extreme.

I'm just messing with you. I know about the welfare queen delusion. I know about the rich people getting rich on the trough.

Now you've hurt my feelings..........

I'm going to bed.......

WAH....

WAH....

(but maybe first I'll go cause more trouble over at the Washington Post...)

Okay, so we've covered Food Stamps and WIC, now what about the Bear Sterns bailout? Was it the right thing to do. All of the smart people (smart about MONEY) say it was the right thing because otherwise it was a "deck of cards" or dominos.....(dominoes??)

Anyway, I think a "nanny" state would be more interested in more carefully inspecting cargo containers, and securing nuclear weapons in the Ukraine and other former Soviet Bloc states (as Senator Nunn has worked to do)...... Instead of worrying about what people like me might be formulating. Or spying on meetings of Quaker pacifists, or other such activity.

These guys are too stupid to keep us safe. Ask yourself: WHAT HAVE THEY DISCOVERED TO DATE?

They not only lie about the threats. THEY ALSO LIE ABOUT THEIR SUCCESS!

The plots that they claim to have busted have turned out to be nothing.

So NANNY? All of the damned charity in the world is fine with me. Better 100 Welfare Cadillac Queens than one Crooked Congressman sucking up the dregs of a sweetheart avionics deal!

Nanny State: Food Stamps

Nanny State: WIC aid for pregnant (unmarried) mothers.

Nanny State: Welfare

Nanny State: Bear Sterns Bailout.

AYE! Either he's lying, or he's told himself the story so many times that he really believes it's true, or it's the parasitic alien lifeform thats attached itself to the base of that squishy-looking thing down at the bottom of his brain, you know, like on that edition of Star Trek where the old man admiral guy has that thing on his spine?

THE MUTHA F***ER is L-Y-I-N-G.

They have done something REALLY bad and they know there's going to be HELL TO PAY.

THEY ARE FUCKING LYING OUT OF THEIR ASS TO KEEP THE TELECOMS FROM COPPING A PLEA and telling just what went down.

THEY ARE FUCKING LYING.

THEY HAVE TAPPED THE TELEPHONES OF EVERYONE ON THEIR "list" AND THAT'S IT.

Just more of the same, par for the course with this crowd. What continues to stagger me is the bald-faced stupidity of their schemes. When they are revealed (just like Watergate and Iran-Contra) they always turn out to be so hare-brained in conception and totally incompetent in execution.

I want to point out what Mike McConnell is now saying about al-Quaida recruiting and training "western-looking" agents to more easily infiltrate the U.S.

Think about that one. There's a compelling argument for all sorts of draconian new measures, even to the point (one could argue) of "Citizenship Chip" implants, otherwise you'd have to prove you are who you say you are? It seems to me that this would also lead to further racial profiling. Whereas now anyone who looks "Arabian" (as an acquaintance is fond of saying) is subject to suspicion, imagine the new dimensions that the "Black Muslims" will endure.....

Damn! I'm gonna start drinking early tonight. I could go into work tomorrow, but I think I won't. It's a recession. My productivity is d-o-w-n...........

JEB, that is.......... Dumber than a fucking box of rocks. He signed the PNAC Manifesto.

Down some republican FUCKING THROAT.

They are GOING DOWN!

I feel it coming!

I think the only justice for them would be to ship them to Iraq and put them to work picking up body parts after the bombs go off. Maybe that would bring some sense of reality to them.

W says the progress is "remarkable".

He's right about that, only the remarks will never fall on his stupid ears, and the blot will never cross his conscience.

Amnesia.