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Bill E Pilgrim

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 12:46 AM
Original article: This Modern World

Sampling of Salon letters

A) I told you all that this empty suit was only being promoted over Hillary's rightful claim to the Presidency as an affirmative action pick because he's black, because as we all know "it's time for a woman to be President" and that mattered more than which of them would actually be better at it.

B) You libs are finally seeing what an empty suit this guy is, as I said all along (long, repeated, boring barely contained racism-based diatrabe not displayed, click to read the rest, better yet, click over to the Free Republic or etc)

C) I told you all that George Bush planned 9/11 because he's obviously such an intelligent evil genius, and Obama is no different, except that he's an empty suit that Bush has crawled inside of, because, shut up, that's why. Sheeple.

D) I was going to write something about how I agree that Obama has been a little disappointing to progressives but let's not go overboard, after all, who do those guys in the last panel represent, Republicans? The ones who aren't screaming about Obama being born in Kenya? Which amounts to what, like thirteen of them?

However I think I'll just let the various versions of "empty suit"-ism have their day, since Salon seems to be a sort of shooting gallery where ex-PUMAs can find people who agree with them in droves, even if that's because they're Drudge readers who agree for entirely different reasons.

Or maybe not so different.

Wednesday, August 5, 2009 01:23 AM

By the numbers

The actual figures for Republicans are: 28% of Republicans think he's not born in the US and another 30% are "not sure".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/31/new-poll-less-than-half-o_n_248470.html

This makes 58% percent of Republicans who aren't sure that Obama was born in Hawaii, despite all of the evidence you cited which shows without any reasonable doubt that he was.

The significant figure though is the 11% of the entire population that you cited. When taken as a whole, around 90% of this country's citizens believe all that evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

The real story here is just how small and insignificant the remaining Republicans are, yet people keep distorting this. The rampant Broderism we suffer from insists that everything be "bipartisan", which is defined as letting let Republicans have exactly 50% of a say in everything, despite the fact that they number less than 20% of the population.

There are two traditional parties. True. They are not, however, representative of 50% and 50% of the voters. Not even close. One of them only represents 20% of the voters, and of that 20%, more than half believe this insane racist conspiracy theory.

Which by the way makes 11%.

The moral is: Don't listen to Republicans anymore, and don't fear them either. They're small, fringe, limited to one region, and increasingly insane in their impotence. Yes, even if Glenn Beck gets "millions of viewers". 11% can represent "millions", but it's still 11%. It's a big country.

Wednesday, August 5, 2009 04:16 AM

@LondonLad

that slush bucket that is Oprah and later the hearts of too many Americans who should have looked twice before stepping off the kerb.

This from a birther. Someone who aligns himself with Orly Taitz and with what are by near-universal acclaim the most moronic people the US has to offer, the birthers, then wants to criticize American popular culture for making people gullible.

Salon is hilarious.

I blame Camille Paglia. But that's just me.

Monday, August 10, 2009 11:32 AM

Weak

Sorry, this is a really bad analogy. The subterfuge is in the "took no action to stop the attacks" which you're clearly interpreting as "knew precisely about the events coming on 9/11 and let them happen".

In fact, this response could more likely be interpreted as "He had been warned of attacks and didn't work to prevent them, because he'd prefer to prepare for war and if attacks happened they'd just give him a better excuse".

In fact, that's a MORE likely interpretation than the total nutcase "Bush blew up the buildings" interpretation you're giving it (sorry to any nutcases who believe that, I know there are some).

It's just more right wing spin, as usual.

Having said all that, do you know how many people in the Middle East, aside from Israel, believe those sorts of theories about 9/11? It's shockingly high. Now that could be because they only listen to "the liberal media" from the US in those places, though I rather doubt that. Most of the news from the US I see when overseas is right wing talking points like everything else.

I think it's because Bush so clearly had hoped to go to war for years, had angled for it, and lied about WMD or at the very least didn't let the inspectors keep looking and so on, that this lost him any credibility in the world at large at all.

In any case, Barack Obama was born in the US, there's mounds of evidence to back that up, and zero evidence to back up some fantasy that he wasn't. So this is not at all the same as "Bush knew about attacks in advance", which as a phrase actually is debatable, at the very least.

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